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-   -   5th Gear Grind at Freeway Speeds? (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39636)

DJCarbine 07-03-2013 06:50 PM
I've had grinding into 5th maybe 5 times total over 6K miles.
I always thought my leg was just not cooperating and I was letting the clutch out too soon, but now I will have to keep a closer eye on this...

Touge Monster 07-03-2013 07:07 PM
I get it every once and a while I just try to make a mental note to be careful upshifting to 5th. I have only expreienced the grind on quick upshifts.

Shagaliscious 07-03-2013 07:31 PM
Well, this definitely happened the other day. After it happened I slowed down, downshifted into 4th, and was able to recreate it. I was going probably 60-70, and it was a fast upshift into 5th with a slight grind. I am going to change the transmission fluid next oil change, see if that helps.

Gen 07-03-2013 07:55 PM
Mine always grinds into 4th over 4k RPM. It has gotten better to a degree with time, however.

l0aded 07-06-2013 08:20 PM
Took my car into the dealer and left it with them overnight. Next day they said they compared it against another FR-S and it also had the problem so it isn't a "problem" with my specific car rather something that is on all of them. Looks like there is no fix though.

gvan1998 07-06-2013 09:27 PM
Dealership told me to bring th car back to the dealer. Toyota told the dealership to video record the problem and send it to Toyota Headquarters. A day later I get a response stating that there is no fix as of now, and take the car home. They will figure out a solution and give me a call. Its sounds like Toyota knows the problem exists but no solutions.

tech4pdx 07-06-2013 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by l0aded (Post 1024381)
no one else with this problem? =(

I guess I'll try swapping the fluids and see before bringing to dealer.
I have this exact problem. Swapping fluids did not fix it. Just taking it easy on 5th for now.

tech4pdx 07-06-2013 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by gvan1998 (Post 1049493)
Dealership told me to bring th car back to the dealer. Toyota told the dealership to video record the problem and send it to Toyota Headquarters. A day later I get a response stating that there is no fix as of now, and take the car home. They will figure out a solution and give me a call. Its sounds like Toyota knows the problem exists but no solutions.
Maybe the problem is an inherent design decision that can't easily be fixed without Toyota eating a shit load in warranty repair costs.. Hmmm.

RD1428 07-08-2013 03:53 AM
When downshifting Into 5th, don't force it place slight pressure and let it engage on it's own, it won't grind. ( not too good on explaining it) there was another thread about this

PCaddict 07-08-2013 02:12 PM
same problem
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by l0aded (Post 1014321)
I noticed that my car have a slight grind, more so than any other gear. In local streets I never feel anything but when downshifting or upshifting into 5th going 65 or 70+ I feel grinding when trying to push the shift knob into fifth and requires a little more of a push to get it in. Does anyone else have this problem? Would changing transmission fluids alleviate this kind of issue?
I experience the same problem then you my car have 1 year and 26 000km and start to do this last week. The car are at the dealer right now for some test... Did you get the 1st gear unable to get in when cold and have to release the clutch a little bit to get in?

OrbitalEllipses 07-08-2013 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PCaddict (Post 1052541)
I experience the same problem then you my car have 1 year and 26 000km and start to do this last week. The car are at the dealer right now for some test... Did you get the 1st gear unable to get in when cold and have to release the clutch a little bit to get in?
That's normal for 1st gear in most cars. Sometimes gotta roll back or forwards an inch or two to line everything up when cold. Especially prevalent on reverse, which has no synchros if I recall (and/or is straight cut vs. helical cut for the forward gears).

PCaddict 07-08-2013 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses (Post 1052545)
That's normal for 1st gear in most cars. Sometimes gotta roll back or forwards an inch or two to line everything up when cold. Especially prevalent on reverse, which has no synchros if I recall (and/or is straight cut vs. helical cut for the forward gears).
allright and in quebec the temperature can be very cold :) but for the grinding at 5 gear i will see what the dealer will tell me today.

l0aded 07-08-2013 02:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PCaddict (Post 1052541)
I experience the same problem then you my car have 1 year and 26 000km and start to do this last week. The car are at the dealer right now for some test... Did you get the 1st gear unable to get in when cold and have to release the clutch a little bit to get in?
I never had this problem but it doesn't get very cold where I am. It can feel a bit notchy but not to that point. There is a thread about that somewhere saying if you switch to a different transmission fluid it helps that problem.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21818
or
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16604

PCaddict 07-08-2013 03:38 PM
answer from the dealers
 
for the 5 gear problem the dealer flush and change the oil but doesn't fix the problem now he waiting the authorization from toyota to replace the whole transmission


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