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-   -   Best Catted Header for the Buck?? (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39189)

ramiram1984 02-03-2014 07:29 PM

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57369 lol

Eau Rouge 02-03-2014 07:39 PM

Nice exchange on info and perspectives everyone, thank you! It seems to bear out what I've heard that the OEM exhaust manifold is deficient from a performance perspective mainly due to the less than optimum merging of the exhaust gases before they're routed into the cat, hence the torque dip that gets reduced/eliminated once a header with a better collector is in place.

For my purposes, I'll likely eventually end up with one of the CARB certified centrifugal superchargers and will be swapping back in the OEM manifold/cat every 2nd year. That may also mean I'll need to reflash between two different tunes once ever 730 days if I want to fully maximize the non-CARB setup (or not if there isn't enough difference to warrant the cost of a 2nd tune). The good news is that here new vehicles no longer require a smog inspection/certification until they reach six years old.

FR-S Matt 02-03-2014 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thehapaone (Post 1501251)
the ft86speedfactory catted header showed elimination of the torque dip and a few horsepower gain on the stock tune

The advanced multiplier also wasn't set to 1, hence a fresh ECU reset for the pull. Don't let that chart fool you. There isn't a single header that eliminates the dip by itself on a stock tune. Someone even made the dip look like it went away on a stock header because of ECU resets.

Fizz 02-04-2014 12:49 AM

Which is why i'm still waiting for independent dyno charts for both the OFH and FT86SF header before I commit to buying.

Wepeel 02-04-2014 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR-S Matt (Post 1501998)
The advanced multiplier also wasn't set to 1, hence a fresh ECU reset for the pull. Don't let that chart fool you. There isn't a single header that eliminates the dip by itself on a stock tune. Someone even made the dip look like it went away on a stock header because of ECU resets.

Do you happen to have a link to that post? How would an ECU reset make the dip look like it went away?

Eau Rouge 02-04-2014 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wepeel (Post 1502544)
Do you happen to have a link to that post? How would an ECU reset make the dip look like it went away?

I'd like to see the background behind this, too.

tonystewart 02-04-2014 10:39 PM

Currently running the FA20club catted EL header, awaiting the replacement pipe from FA20club to make it cat free. It is a reasonably priced header with good gains, I wonder if the primary cat removal will be a noticeable change.

OFT Stage 2 EL Header Gas Tune 1.55b runs very well with this header.


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