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GT 12-14-2009 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Axel (Post 5897)
seems like most mags are discussing the same themes we do here...

this is from:
http://www.superstreetonline.com/fea...cle/index.html

ahhh I want this car so bad and I really hope the those bucket seats make it to production.

Matador 12-14-2009 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by USMCMike (Post 5884)
It's heavy, unfocused, has an electric motor (all cars with electric motors have no soul), and basically doesn't excite like the old CRX did. Here's hoping they drop a Si version that fixes all these problems.


:sigh: :slap:

OldSkoolToys 12-15-2009 12:55 AM

"Even though its Front Wheel Drive..." ???

As if to say FF cars have superior handling characteristics compared to other platforms?

Pah!

S2KtoFT86 12-15-2009 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 5910)
"Even though its Front Wheel Drive..." ???

As if to say FF cars have superior handling characteristics compared to other platforms?

Pah!

Here we go again. :bonk:

RegisBou 12-15-2009 12:49 PM

the CRZ will produce 250ftlbs of torque starting at idle.....

140bhp + 250ftlbs of trq = omg throttle response

sure it will be FF but both engines (motors) will be used at the same time.

the car will be extremely light weight and its replacing the s-2000...it will have a stiff chassis no worries.

GT 12-15-2009 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RegisBou (Post 5919)
the CRZ will produce 250ftlbs of torque starting at idle.....

140bhp + 250ftlbs of trq = omg throttle response

sure it will be FF but both engines (motors) will be used at the same time.

the car will be extremely light weight and its replacing the s-2000...it will have a stiff chassis no worries.

wow where did you get those numbers from? I believe the torque is suppose to be 107 lb-ft plus 57 lb-ft from the IMA.

OldSkoolToys 12-15-2009 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RegisBou (Post 5919)
the CRZ will produce 250ftlbs of torque starting at idle.....

140bhp + 250ftlbs of trq = omg throttle response

sure it will be FF but both engines (motors) will be used at the same time.

the car will be extremely light weight and its replacing the s-2000...it will have a stiff chassis no worries.

hahaha, being pretty generous with that torque estimate aren't ya?

S2KtoFT86 12-15-2009 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RegisBou (Post 5919)
the CRZ will produce 250ftlbs of torque starting at idle.....

140bhp + 250ftlbs of trq = omg throttle response

sure it will be FF but both engines (motors) will be used at the same time.

the car will be extremely light weight and its replacing the s-2000...it will have a stiff chassis no worries.

That is nowhere near the truth, sorry. The S2000 replacement was canceled. :thumbdown: I'd really like to know where you got those numbers from as well as that is way off from what was reported. Check this before making that claim: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/08/h...pecs-revealed/

However, this was reported back in February of a possible Type R CR-Z which would be sick. http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/12/r...yo-motor-show/.

4agze 12-15-2009 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86 (Post 5924)
That is nowhere near the truth, sorry. The S2000 replacement was canceled. :thumbdown: I'd really like to know where you got those numbers from as well as that is way off from what was reported. Check this before making that claim: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/08/h...pecs-revealed/

However, this was reported back in February of a possible Type R CR-Z which would be sick. http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/12/r...yo-motor-show/.


That made me :confused0068: also, I'll wait for the real independent review from car & driver or road and track for this one.

MtnDrvr86 12-15-2009 08:06 PM

I didnt know kia was trying to get into it to...they are talking about adding a turbo to the forte koup for 2011 though. and VW has been trying to get a small rwd car off the ground for a long time now, the toyota might just be the ticket to finally getting them to do it. Looks like the next few years will be exciting for the car guys around the world...

zigzagz94 12-15-2009 11:48 PM

I never really believed the Silvia project was ever cancelled just merely put on hold due to the economic downturn. The car was supposedly really far along in the development process so it's no surprise that they will be able to quickly dust it off and bring it to market if the FT-86 is the sales hit that we all think it will be.

Those other ones are just pipe dreams though that probably wouldn't make it to market until around the time of the mid cycle refresh for the FT-86. Does VW even have a small RWD platform? Would Kia use a version of the RWD Genesis platform because Hyundai tried that and their coupe is huge/overweight compared to the target specs of the FT.

The only other company, besides Nissan, that I think could realistically offer a similar size/configured vehicle to the FT-86 whithin the same timeframe is Mazda. They have a new miata coming out around the same time and could relatively easily pull a porsche move, ala cayman, and offer a slightly different coupe version of their roadster. That will never happen though.

Matador 12-16-2009 01:00 AM

Miata is lacking a turbo rotary engine from the factory :p

OldSkoolToys 12-16-2009 01:01 AM

hell, the RX is lacking that from the factory.

White Comet 12-16-2009 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RegisBou (Post 5919)
the CRZ will produce 250ftlbs of torque starting at idle.....

140bhp + 250ftlbs of trq = omg throttle response

sure it will be FF but both engines (motors) will be used at the same time.

the car will be extremely light weight and its replacing the s-2000...it will have a stiff chassis no worries.

I'll have whatever it is you're having.


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