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honestly I thought the stock tires would've been way shittier than what's described here.

however another question I have is if you guys got your car with the Michelin Primacy or the Bridgestone Turanza?

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Originally Posted by dori. (Post 546340)

Michelin Primacy.

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Originally Posted by Jayde (Post 545593)

I have and will be unless I come into some money. :) The stock summer tires at freezing temps with the snow on the ground was something I do not want to experience again. If you plan on driving year round, I recommend a good set of tires and possible a second set of wheels for quick changing. After my tires were put on, it was a night/day difference!

I don't really have to drive anywhere this winter, but next year I'm getting some Blizzaks mounted on steelies for extra weight.

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Originally Posted by was385 (Post 546388)

I don't really have to drive anywhere this winter, but next year I'm getting some Blizzaks mounted on steelies for extra weight.

It's actually not much more weight. I recall seeing the OEM setup at roughly 40 pounds per wheel while my wheel setup was at 49 according to the UPS sticker.

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Originally Posted by Jayde (Post 546395)

It's actually not much more weight. I recall seeing the OEM setup at roughly 40 pounds per wheel while my wheel setup was at 49 according to the UPS sticker.

Oh wow, well either way it's just less of a pain. If the weight becomes an issue I'll toss a couple sand bags in the trunk.

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Originally Posted by dori. (Post 546340)

primacy

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Originally Posted by Ayaz2589 (Post 547083)

what snow? lol

Seriously. I was so jealous of the people in New York. Got my winter tires on and everything :mad0259:

I will say this, my winter tires are WAY grippier in the rain than the primacy's are on dry tarmac. Great tires. Here's to hoping for some good safe snow this season.

I have the stock tires, drove to school and back in snow, twice. No problems, just left the snow button on, simple. Though i just order some Birdgestone winter tires...

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Originally Posted by dem00n (Post 547119)

I have the stock tires, drove to school and back in snow, twice. No problems, just left the snow button on, simple. Though i just order some Birdgestone winter tires...

All snow mode does is start in second gear.

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Originally Posted by Jayde (Post 547154)

All snow mode does is start in second gear.

Yeah, am i the only one who started off in 2nd gear when i had a MT? :bellyroll:

Keep in mind the colder it gets the harder the stock tires will get. This storm was fairly warm, so the stock tires probably did fine but when winter really hits that might change. If you look up snow tire reviews you'll see that in very cold weather on dry pavement, summer tires basically are totally useless, all season tires are not as useless but still bad, and snow tires will give stopping distances equal to all season tires in warm weather. On hard packed snow, the difference is even worse. Tire choice is just as important as AWD vs RWD in winter performance. A WRX with summer tires is going to be just as bad as a BRZ when it comes time to stop fast, and a BRZ on snow tires can do 90% of the things a WRX could do without any problems.

http://www.edmunds.com/car-reviews/f...vs-summer.html
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...mparison-tests
http://community.evo.co.uk/users/Nic...d-winter-tyres
http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/24...es_tested.html

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EVO

Winter tyres tested

evo pits cold weather tyres against regulars via 2 Jaguar XFRs and a snowy Bedford circuit

By Ollie Marriage
19th February 2010
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Not just an excuse to cock about in powerful V8 Jaguars, it's research...

So what difference does a set of cold weather tyres actually make? If you’ve read this month's Fast Fleet report on our Jaguar XFR (evo 141), you’ll know we wanted a set after getting stuck in December’s snow.

Four Pirelli Sotto Zeros (£1294 for the set) were fitted by Tyres Northampton, another XFR was sourced on standard Dunlop SP Sport Maxx summer rubber and Bedford Autodrome was booked – not that it was busy with two inches of snow on the West Circuit.

There were three tests to do - a lap time, a 0-60mph (to measure the differences in accelerative traction) and a 60-0mph braking figure. Sure, it was a lot of fun, but the motive was serious - to find out how much more grip, poise and traction the cold weather tyres offered.
Read our editor Nick Trott's views on the winter tyres here

Conditions were mixed - snow off-line, mostly slush on-line and some of the corners merely wet. It was about 3°C. The standard XFR (plate ending EFC) was hopeless almost everywhere. Skittish and snatchy, it could barely put any power down and slithered to a 2:35 lap.

The Sotto Zeros were a revelation from the get-go. The same width and profile as standard, the difference was noticeable in the pitlane – this time we didn’t join the track sideways. This Jag (plate ending EFF) was far more predictable and manageable through corners, peak speed was 20mph faster, and you could feel the tyres biting through the snow. I was amazed at the liberties you could take – it was hard to believe we were on snow. The result? More than 30sec sliced off the lap time, at 2min04sec.

Would four-wheel drive help? We had an Evo X FQ-330 on summer rubber to hand. It managed a 2m29s, 25sec adrift of the winter-tyred XF. Point proved. To get the standard XFR to perform a 0-60mph time at all, I had to to start on wet tarmac and it still took 15.3sec – the cold weather tyres cut that to 8.9sec.

Braking was where the biggest differences lay. The Sport Maxxes took longer to stop from 60mph than to get there in the first place, covering a huge 782.1ft (238.4m) in 18.5sec. The Sotto Zeros helped the XFR stop in 7.8sec, covering 330.8ft (100.8m) – way under half the time and distance. Next month we’ll reveal what the cold weather tyres feel like in day-to-day driving conditions...

:thumbup: Here's an idea: Do one hell of a burn-out when you pull out of your garage. That should heat-up your summer compound tires! :eyebulge: