This is for the prototype of the production car, which Toyota has already stated the JDM weight for it. It will NOT become lighter coming to the US and since the Subaru car is supposed to be mechanically and body wise (save for bumpers, interior treatments and badging) to the Toyota, then no, it's not going to lose 200lbs in comparison.

This review is not an STI, and I'm not sure an STI has ever weighed less than the WRX? The current models are ~170lbs HEAVIER.

No, like all of these reviews, ignore all of the specs.

Happy with all the information comming out,2500lbs seems too good to be true!!!!

Yeah, I've been thinking the same thing. I've been waiting long enough for this car already. I want to buy it when it comes out and then get a better version when it comes out a few years down the road. At least I can switch all the parts to the new one so I don't have to hold off on the mods now. Thats what I did when I traded in my Elise for my Exige.

A full one second off to 0-60mph compare to the Toyota varient stats. The BRZ would have to be producing over 160kw compared to the Toyota's 147kw to achieve the one second drop in acceleration.

I like the shape of these taillights better than the toyota, but I hate how the inside lamps look like they came from a camaro.

Ok! Thank goodness! At 6'2, I would not have been able to fit one leg in that car!

^ here's hoping it's 2500lbs (MX-5 @ 2469). As you say PAI they will keep the weight down. W/the FT-86 using inexpensive steel pretty much everywhere, saving you mention could mean Subaru is aiming for the performance bullseye, not just 'good enough' at a cheap price. My kinda thinking..

Guess I'm getting the BRZ over the FR-S

Out of all the members on here Dave I thought you would understand. Anyways forget Toyota for now, this is Subaru, Subaru with no leash and an estimated 31k USD for the prized STI variant. STI variant not the new gen AWD WRX or STI which is gunning for ~3100lbs.

As said you can drop over 200++# easily. The standard FRS/BRZ will not have factory wheel setup that will reduce 100# alone.

That render looks amazing! All of these speculations don't really tell me that any of the reviewers have any solid proof with the actual specs. Motortrend says one thing, car and driver another.

$31k for what though?

I'll take the base Scion model for ~$8k less and do my own work.

You mean BRZ STI

The FRS/BRZ will be very similar, depending on the options and which badge you prefer will make you go one way or the other.

Also don't confuse STI with TRD. STI is pure performance, functionality and styling for consumers as well as racing, TRD is mediocre at best in any of those categories unless it's for their race cars with TRD stickers just slapped on them but nowhere near actual production cars or dealer options available.

You're just gonna have to wait for the specifics.

In retrospect I could do it for less than you granted I don't have to change internals, the point is you still have a $24k car with $8k in mods costing more, voiding warranty, losing reliability, longevity and still being slower.

All I can say is this will be a car you can drive off the floor, smoke things in the straights, corners and say it was money well spent and not many on the road like it.