Got the fa20club stage 2 with my Perrin catback and drop in filter. Loving it so far. Feedback and support is very good .

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Here is my review....

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17974

CUSTOMER service was awesome (as it should be)!!!

watching!

I am aware of the but for the most part everyone Ive seen and or known to try have said it will take forever or you wont get it. Even the shop that I work with has said FA20 are much more responsive. Im not here trolling as it seems that you are I am just giving my opinion.

This is one of that main reasons I want to work with them a lot of people have told me that their customer service is awesome.

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they all tweak maps for you based on setup.

they all make power

all ecutek dealers sell racerom, so all dealers ell the same blipshift, flat foot, launch control etc
what remains to be seen is who offers what in terms of octane options, map line ups, etc

Its hard to try to be objective on this topic but I shall try to share what i think is of value to you all

Perrin is just OC about testing his stuff, hence the oddly long delay for his shit. You know its gonna be a solid and safe offering for your motor. His time and effort testing is unlike any other vendor from where I sit.

I have NOTHING but goodness towards FA20club, he's polite, prompt, no I havent gotten any interest from him using me or apparently others on line as a real world tester. But I would not hesitate to do business with him. I think fa20 would get more than interest and see orders if he expanded his online tester base- peer reviews work.(hint: send me a tune file)

We all know who the only game in town is, and he is a bird of his own feather-probably not as test intensive, but he has a user big base of early adopter ginea pigs and as such a bunch of live testers who may not know theyre testing. there are lots of posts regarding the customer experience there, so you can make up your own mind and get, and wait in line fill out a form, yada yada

Not to knock Visconti, I've driven the product, it does feel good, every bit as good as my perrin tune from the little exposure I have had. I'm never sure if the version being released has really been tested thoroughly, is how I feel. That said, visconti seems to have the most r&d time on e85, and I would buy the Visconti e85 product myself, fwiw, just with reserved cust service expectations knowing how busy he is etc.

basically you want it now its fa20 or Visconti. I think fa20 can be another visconti, and he's a pleaasure to talk to.

again, feels like a smaller, one man show kinda deal, but I could be wrong.

if you think its worth the wait, Perrin is working hard on this. I know he is collecting logs from me and others and making updates seems almost daily, I've tested like 3 revisions in past week, all little tweaks, all improvements.

I'd love to hear more feedback from folks running the fa20 tune, seems full of win too

seems a bit contradictory. "This product isn't as good because i feel like i'm a tester, but i love this product that i'm a tester for."

LikeI said, you all know I am a bit biased. Just trying to help. Like I said, the Visconti tune feels plenty powerful. Never driven the fa20.

sorry I cant help more with who to choose- in summary
-I'd buy from Visconti myself with customer service reservations
-I'd buy from Fa20 myself with testing reservations
-I'd buy from Perrin with release date and e85 availability reservations

at present only fa20 and Visconti offer the e85. This may be something I will be testing out later for Perrin, but thats all; TBD. I still have some reservations on the longer term use of e85, and am gonna do a heck of alot of testing myself before I track that. I know it makes more power, but what else comes longside that? I got the Perrin tune, and if he ever does release the e85 stuff too, I know it too will be uber safe, or he wont do it.

At present Perrin is the only shop that will be an authorized dealer for the Vortech SC system. It was a no brainer for me given my plans for my BRZ. I'm far more comfy adding a tried and tested SC from a big shop like Vortech, with warranty than running e85 longer term with only the tuners telling us its okay to run for more power, at the expense of higher gas consumption from a not yet readily available fuel.

There is no "Best". It's the one you are happy with.

Agreed... We are all testers for the product, and right now John has the biggest tester base, with the most information coming in. He may not be the most responsive person because of how busy he is, but any issue I had come across and notified him of, he was aware of and working on a fix.

Also, when my ecu went down John called me immediately and worked on my car remotely until we had determined that it was beyond us. He also reimbursed the cost of the overnight shipping to england, and rental car while my car was down within minutes of me sending him copies of the receipts (digitally).

I will admit he can rub people the wrong way, and has his own vision for things, but he's 100% committed to making the best product he can, and updates his product extensively.

I wont say much but every vendor will have its pros/cons and every tune will probably be similar in ways but as far as who i would trust tuning my car i would go visconti hands down. I've seen john in action and he doesn't stop until he gets it right, and im not exaggerating. He will test from 6am to 10pm 3-4 days a week on an actual car and the rest will be viewing logs to see where he can improve on his tune. As u can see john is 24hrs pretty much on tuning and im not even joking. I honestly don't think any vendor has put more time into tuning than john has and i'll bet money on that! Another reason why i trust him is because he's not new to the ecutek platform. Im not sure if this is perrins or fa20's first time using ecutek but john has been in the game for quite some time so im sure he knows how to utilize everything more efficiently. Hes so good with it im sure hes the one giving ecutek ideas on how to improve a few things like fuel %, 0-60 dash, 1/4 mile, afr, boost control etc ;)..Ive never seen someone so excited about tuning. i'm sure fa20 is great as well as perrin and to me its really preference at the end of the day. Im sure everytune is great, and regardless of who u choose please get one lol...it will change your life lol

I think he hit it on the nail- i personally dont care whose tune you end up driving- get a tune, it transforms the car. its your longer term plans, budget, locality etc -all play factors into who you choose and why.

everytime I drive on the stock base map, its so lazy..tires and tune should be everyones 1st upgrades

What do these guys charge for a tune ? I already have cable & tune from Visconti, but may look at other alternatives

Thanks :thumbsup:

EDIT: Nevermind found what I was looking for ;)