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bhmax 10-11-2022 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FrickingReallySlow (Post 3551269)
How much did you pay for the trans? Was it from a totaled ‘22 recycler

It was the one on eBay. Ended up being $1500 shipped. Probably pricier than it should be. Hopefully we’ll see more of them (unfortunately for the owners) and the price will come down.

Irace86.2.0 10-11-2022 06:00 PM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/28497515266...SABEgISqPD_BwE

Here is another one on eBay for $1,600 plus $200 shipping. I'm probably going to do a CD009 swap unless someone shows that the second gen is a whole lot stronger than the first gen.

PulsarBeeerz 10-11-2022 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3551682)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/28497515266...SABEgISqPD_BwE

Here is another one on eBay for $1,600 plus $200 shipping. I'm probably going to do a CD009 swap unless someone shows that the second gen is a whole lot stronger than the first gen.

Knowing Subaru it will be only 20% stronger to go with the 20% of additional engine output. That turbo K24 will shatter the case. lol No reason to be scared of slamming 4th all over again if you can help it.

bhmax 10-13-2022 01:15 PM

Got the car running with no issues, so the swap itself is no issue. It’ll just come down to if it’s actually strong enough for a given torque/driving style and availability/price.

blsfrs 10-15-2022 11:14 AM

I wonder if the 2nd gen has these components.

https://toyotagazooracing.com/jp/gr/grparts/86/

Irace86.2.0 10-15-2022 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by blsfrs (Post 3552489)
I wonder if the 2nd gen has these components.

https://toyotagazooracing.com/jp/gr/grparts/86/

Maybe. They said larger/stronger 4th and shot peening and upgraded syncros I thought. I don’t know. Cheaper just to get a used transmission than doing a rebuild with those components, unfortunately. At that point, a CD009 swap would be better. Most people are spending like $4k+ for rebuilt stock transmissions.

86league 11-08-2022 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bhmax (Post 3552187)
Got the car running with no issues, so the swap itself is no issue. It’ll just come down to if it’s actually strong enough for a given torque/driving style and availability/price.

So the 2nd gen bolts up and the connectors for the trans are the same - no modification needed for a 2nd gen trans in a 1st gen car?

bhmax 11-09-2022 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 86league (Post 3555802)
So the 2nd gen bolts up and the connectors for the trans are the same - no modification needed for a 2nd gen trans in a 1st gen car?

Yep. All the same.

Sasquachulator 11-09-2022 05:07 PM

So does it actually feel different in any way?

Would that just be due to the upgraded/tweaked components inside?

bhmax 11-09-2022 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sasquachulator (Post 3556007)
So does it actually feel different in any way?

Would that just be due to the upgraded/tweaked components inside?

Well, it doesn’t suck, but I was coming from bad 3rd and 4th gear synchros so anything would be better.😆 I’m not sure it would actually be any better than a brand new 1st gen trans feel wise, but it was the best option for me at the time.

zachseidy39 11-10-2022 12:23 AM

So does this pretty much confirm that you can interchange gen 1/2 clutches? Might be nice to throw a gr86 clutch in my fr-s when it needs one if it has a slightly higher torque rating

Irace86.2.0 01-12-2023 01:05 AM

I just did the gen 2 swap because it was the cheapest and fastest swap for now to get me into something newer and slightly stronger. Everything bolts right up. I swapped the MTEC springs, Verus forged fork and billet pivot. I'm using a South Bend Endurance clutch that is a kevlar clutch rated to 450tq. We will see how everything works out with my K24 turbo. I'll be taking the car to the dyno in a few weeks. Shooting for 450whp and 350wtq.

Breadman 01-12-2023 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3563836)
I just did the gen 2 swap because it was the cheapest and fastest swap for now to get me into something newer and slightly stronger. Everything bolts right up. I swapped the MTEC springs, Verus forged fork and billet pivot. I'm using a South Bend Endurance clutch that is a kevlar clutch rated to 450tq. We will see how everything works out with my K24 turbo. I'll be taking the car to the dyno in a few weeks. Shooting for 450whp and 350wtq.


Following this closely. I dont expect my trans to hold up my highboost pulley build for much longer.

Irace86.2.0 01-12-2023 11:09 AM

My power goals are less than what people have done with the FA20 on the gen 1 transmission, so if it holds on the dyno, that won’t be saying much empirically.


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