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soundman98 01-06-2022 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnH (Post 3494348)
as a professional wrench, there are at least 5 normal issues that make this kind of noise. Its definitely a relevant thing to want to listen to it.

For example, is it a lifter not pumping up quickly? Or an exhaust manifold leak? Or a heat shield? Or an item stuck in the belt that flung itself out after a bit? All completely different diagnosis and prognosis. All to Tatatatatatata

could also be an annoying passenger, a passing truck applying their jake brake, or full-auto gunfire.

humfrz 01-06-2022 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnH (Post 3494348)
as a professional wrench, there are at least 5 normal issues that make this kind of noise. Its definitely a relevant thing to want to listen to it.

For example, is it a lifter not pumping up quickly? Or an exhaust manifold leak? Or a heat shield? Or an item stuck in the belt that flung itself out after a bit? All completely different diagnosis and prognosis. All to Tatatatatatata

As a non-professional wrench, I understand.

I was "jest ah messen wich" ol Ultramaroon - ;)

radroach 01-06-2022 05:13 PM

I've had tapping on startup once, it was the day after my car had been picked up J02 valve spring recall (3 years ago) and the fuel in the tank had been sitting for a month. It was also the middle of July in a 100+*F. I think it was a fueling issue for one reason or another but given it was right after the recall service, can't throw that out.

Youx 01-16-2022 09:42 AM

Hello again guys.

After recording each start for ~10 days, it finally happened again (after leaving it outside for a day and a half), and I was able to capture it :

https://youtu.be/TX3mLvO2FZk

It starts at around 15s and is quite loud (before that there is the sound of rain). No sure how to describe it, kinda metallic vibration/creaking?

Yoshoobaroo 01-16-2022 10:31 AM

Scary noise on cold start
 
That sounds like metal on metal. First thing I’d do is check the oil pressure on idle.

https://i.imgur.com/DKn8NH2.png

JD001 01-16-2022 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3492747)
What part of « ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta »,, don't you understand?

:rolleyes:

https://youtu.be/jdccNAOvPHg

Should have bought a VW.. more da-da-da-da......

JD001 01-16-2022 10:43 AM

And then for the computer nerds on the forum:

https://youtu.be/Jb5NTwAEi2w

Excuse the quality, it is Microsoft after all...

Ultramaroon 01-16-2022 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Youx (Post 3497213)
Hello again guys.

After recording each start for ~10 days, it finally happened again (after leaving it outside for a day and a half), and I was able to capture it :

I am certain that it's not engine mechanical. Other than that, I could make some wild guesses. It does sound like a metallic creak.

Youx 01-17-2022 05:08 AM

Thanks for the feedback. That would be quite a relief ��

Where would you look at first? I was thinking loud like that it could come from somewhere along the exhaust line, like something loose or a catalytic converter starting to die? (I know from experience catalytic converters can make a metallic rattle when they start to break, although 80k km seems a bit early). Bottom inspection first?

I’ll keep in mind the oil pressure check too, but for now I don’t have the equipment…

blsfrs 01-17-2022 10:25 AM

Can you shoot another video looking under the hood (bonnet). Maybe look specifically at the belt tensioner. Also is the sound coming more from one side of the engine or the other.

BigTuna 01-17-2022 10:32 AM

My first thought was exhaust heat shield rattling or touching part of the frame.

Youx 01-17-2022 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by blsfrs (Post 3497381)
Can you shoot another video looking under the hood (bonnet). Maybe look specifically at the belt tensioner. Also is the sound coming more from one side of the engine or the other.

I’d say from the driver seat, it felt like it came more from the passenger side, but it’s hard to tell as it lasted only a few seconds.

I’ll get the car back in 2 weeks, so I’ll do another video then (and maybe get someone to start it while I film/listen from outside).

I should also have access to a pit then, so I’ll look at the visible exhaust parts.

Thanks!

Youx 02-07-2022 10:44 AM

Noise with hood open :

https://youtube.com/shorts/hiH5tLVjzGo

Ultramaroon 02-07-2022 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Youx (Post 3502811)

It's definitely some sort of rattle outside of the engine. I don't think it's the AC compressor itself but notice that the rattle stops as soon as the compressor quits running. This is most likely because the engine quits laboring to drive it.

It's an odd one! Maybe a loose engine support. It's loud!


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