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mike2100 09-09-2012 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiks (Post 429934)
Jdm ohlins by carozzia are good, but not identical to Swedish ohlins.

Having used both in my BP legacy I know this well enough. Internals are all swedish but housings, perches, clevis, eyelet, top hats etc all different. Bearing shell is Japanese on both tough (better than most shit you seppos see). Ohlins in Sweden are 1-2 months off having something on shelf. It'll just be a GR sti damper with a fair bit less bound rate and a lighter spring. No problem with this, as they are essentially the same anyway except for vehicle weight. Motion ratio is same. Unsprung front weight is less so they'll reduce some front rebound rate at high frequency and all will be sweet. But they do a lot of testing over there, and they run such a great set of shims that 30% spring rate changes are factory approved. Progressive 4-6 kg sort of range with a 2kg tender would work excellent if they have the stroke for it, should be all the weight needs for just about any tyre.

MCA in Australia will have something special out soon, a little birdy tells me. Considerig Murray Coote is an ex proflex mechanic, and his stuff is as good as proflex/reiger/bilstein/sachs WRC, they should be the best there is as a bolt on for the brz86frs chassis. Also twice/three times the price of the ohlins dfv/R&T too though.

What's funny is the amount of you guys who praise ohlins, jrz and kw..... Because you don't know anything better. At least it's a step in the right direction though and away from Thai crap. Drip fed education by racecomp over the years for a stubborn market of people saturated in an economy of absolute garbage, knock offs, and cut throat sales. I like the fact you even try this RCE. The boys at performanceshock (a while back) said they can't even bring themselves to try and deal with the general public because they're always right, and the Internet knows best. Can't convince a dude to change gun laws, religious
Fanaticism, their opinion on abortion, or love for cheap taiwanese or Japanese coilovers. All are equally as retarded to drill into the thick headed. To present a valid argument or even allow an informed decision with a fact based rhetoric behind their purchasing choice is futile to most. It's war of the cheap shit sadly.

But hell, as long as someone makes 24pot calipers, rear mounted turbos, and $1000 coilovers they will be gobbelled up by a market fanatic over numbers. Just look at the turbo thread for a laugh about how every single valid issue about how a turbo bolt on should perform is excused for the chase of figures only. 3 way coilovers is my latest laugh.... Nothing to do with high/low speed bound as linked rebound, but rather height, camber and rebound. Lol at the fact people listen to that and accept the marketing blindly.

Well that went south fast. So, 2-3 times the price of Ohlins eh? So $6,000 to $9,000? I should justify spending that on a $25,000 car how?
You won't make your point around here through insults.

kiks 09-10-2012 01:23 AM

Noone is saying you need to spend anything.
Just that there is so much more than $1k coilovers and the difference is huge

Ro_Ja 09-10-2012 01:37 AM

Then shouldn't you have posted that in a thread for $1k coilovers...? Last I checked, this thread was for Öhlins, not Tein. LOL

coyote 09-10-2012 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiks (Post 429934)
Jdm ohlins by carozzia are good, but not identical to Swedish ohlins.

Having used both in my BP legacy I know this well enough. Internals are all swedish but housings, perches, clevis, eyelet, top hats etc all different. Bearing shell is Japanese on both tough (better than most shit you seppos see). Ohlins in Sweden are 1-2 months off having something on shelf. It'll just be a GR sti damper with a fair bit less bound rate and a lighter spring. No problem with this, as they are essentially the same anyway except for vehicle weight. Motion ratio is same. Unsprung front weight is less so they'll reduce some front rebound rate at high frequency and all will be sweet. But they do a lot of testing over there, and they run such a great set of shims that 30% spring rate changes are factory approved. Progressive 4-6 kg sort of range with a 2kg tender would work excellent if they have the stroke for it, should be all the weight needs for just about any tyre.

MCA in Australia will have something special out soon, a little birdy tells me. Considerig Murray Coote is an ex proflex mechanic, and his stuff is as good as proflex/reiger/bilstein/sachs WRC, they should be the best there is as a bolt on for the brz86frs chassis. Also twice/three times the price of the ohlins dfv/R&T too though.

What's funny is the amount of you guys who praise ohlins, jrz and kw..... Because you don't know anything better. At least it's a step in the right direction though and away from Thai crap. Drip fed education by racecomp over the years for a stubborn market of people saturated in an economy of absolute garbage, knock offs, and cut throat sales. I like the fact you even try this RCE. The boys at performanceshock (a while back) said they can't even bring themselves to try and deal with the general public because they're always right, and the Internet knows best. Can't convince a dude to change gun laws, religious
Fanaticism, their opinion on abortion, or love for cheap taiwanese or Japanese coilovers. All are equally as retarded to drill into the thick headed. To present a valid argument or even allow an informed decision with a fact based rhetoric behind their purchasing choice is futile to most. It's war of the cheap shit sadly.

But hell, as long as someone makes 24pot calipers, rear mounted turbos, and $1000 coilovers they will be gobbelled up by a market fanatic over numbers. Just look at the turbo thread for a laugh about how every single valid issue about how a turbo bolt on should perform is excused for the chase of figures only. 3 way coilovers is my latest laugh.... Nothing to do with high/low speed bound as linked rebound, but rather height, camber and rebound. Lol at the fact people listen to that and accept the marketing blindly.

Link to 24 pot calipers, please.

Ro_Ja 11-01-2012 05:21 AM

I heard Öhlins supposedly has their FRS/BRZ coilovers on display at SEMA. Can anyone confirm?

IShouldStudy 11-01-2012 12:09 PM

And get pictures if so :popcorn:

King Tut 11-01-2012 05:16 PM

I would anticipate FT-86 SpeedFactory posting pics in here shortly. :D

IShouldStudy 11-01-2012 11:33 PM

Courtesy of Chris@Phastek

http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/y...Z/_DSC3003.jpg

:happyanim:

Ro_Ja 11-01-2012 11:48 PM

I wonder...does this mean they're out yet or do we still have to wait till early next year?

mines13 11-03-2012 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ro_Ja (Post 533826)
I wonder...does this mean they're out yet or do we still have to wait till early next year?

The rep at the show said the setup would likely be available in February-March with an MSRP around $3400.

@Art_Mighty 11-14-2012 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coyote (Post 431378)
Link to 24 pot calipers, please.

VOLVO S40 Evolve tuned w/16 pot calipers (from 2008) are the largest I've ever seen fitted to a car...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/104/3...5ffb70f6_o.jpg

driftartist 11-30-2012 09:37 PM

Any idea if they will release just plain old shocks and struts? just curious.

Circuit Motorsports 12-03-2012 09:38 PM

Right now they are just planning on the Road and Track Coilovers as far as I know.

track_warrior 12-04-2012 12:19 AM

The long horn racing academys lightweight spec MX-5 uses them. I got to drive the car and it feels amazing!!


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