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Summerwolf 09-19-2018 08:59 AM

Who?

yurikaze 09-19-2018 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCtoBRZ (Post 3135001)
I don't see how what I said was unfair or unbalanced, there's no reason for anybody to get butt-hurt because of differing views. .

I never said that. What I meant is based on previous threads, you’re pretty much just going to have tS owners saying why they bought a tS, and PP owners saying why they bought a PP. people tend to try to support the choice that they themselves made, that’s all. Meanwhile the guys with used zenkis will rave about how their cars are even cheaper, allowing even more budget for mods.

Chikna 09-19-2018 11:12 AM

My next dream car would be Shelby GT350

VTEC 09-19-2018 11:54 AM

Seems he likes driving OPs modified car more, but he likes the interior/exterior bits of the tS more. The solution is to just go all out and modify a tS lol

Like many, I wasn't a huge fan of the tS when it first came out. But after seeing a tS go through the same basic track prep as the OP, they look really sick when it's all done. The lowered suspension, the wider wheels, catback exhaust, it just really completed the look and the sound of the tS. Then suddenly the big ass wing, the aero kit, all the flashy red parts, it doesn't look so ridiculous anymore. In fact, I think it looks bad ass when you combine it all together

ScoobsMcGee 09-19-2018 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Side (Post 3135019)
I bought the tS because I wanted the tS. I don't feel the need to justify it to anyone else or prove that it "was worth the cost."

This guy gets it.

Chuckls 09-19-2018 12:51 PM

I bought mine because I enjoy having an out of the box ready to go enthusiast car. I don't have to add exterior cosmetics. I'm content with interior. All I need now is wheels and coilovers and I'm done.

spicyricecake 09-19-2018 01:23 PM

I may be biased here, but I also think PP + mods are better, but there are audiences for the tS. If I didn't care about money, or felt like the extra bits were worth it to me, I would have gotten one. It looks great.

I just prefer a car that is properly modded rather than a factory tuned car. It's all preference.

DrButtDrugs 09-19-2018 01:31 PM

The main difference is that in 15 years the tS is going to be worth more money. That's about it.

mistople 09-19-2018 01:33 PM

Ryan did enjoy my car more, but I just don't think he's into modifying and building cars. He prefers something out-of-the-box. I understand his perspective even though my car was way better than the stock tS.

But its not like I'm biased or anything :)

Rai-zero 09-19-2018 02:13 PM

the PP is probably just as good/fast as tS (if you add the tires).

I didn’t want the big wing but got it for a few reasons.

1) price was not a big deal to me, I was looking at Cayman or even used 911 so any BRZ was a bargain. Looking at what Porsche charges for options and the tS seems cheap.

2) looks. The wing and color accents and interior bits all do something to make the BRZ tS stand out. I see Scion/86 or BRZ every day on the street but only one tS which is the one I drive.

3) limited edition. This is way down the list but it’s something. When people look at older cars there may be one edition that’s looked at as somwhst special. Like mustangs that had a special engine or unique option package. Some day in 10-20 years from now maybe the BRZ will be a cult car and the tS May be the top one.

4) the wing seems to add length to the car visually to me it sorta looks like a stubby little car the wing seems to elongate the car a bit.

highway7 09-19-2018 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NCtoBRZ (Post 3135001)
I don't see how what I said was unfair or unbalanced, there's no reason for anybody to get butt-hurt because of differing views. To me, the plastic aero bits and park bench wing detract from the looks of the car, but if somebody thinks they are worth the extra cash... that's okay too. The bottom line is that if you don't care about the cosmetic stuff that the tS offers, the added handling performance of the tS can be exceeded with a PP BRZ plus a tire swap, alignment and a bit of extra bracing for less money than a tS.

I won't fault anybody for whatever variety of the twins that they buy... there is no right or wrong choice, whatever appeals to each person is just fine.


Agree with this... the wing doesn't even fit the rest of the car. If the wing was something a 19 year old with dad's credit card threw on, it would be ridiculed and mocked; but because it's a factory option it's praised. Not trying to diss guys with the tS but it's just strange to see a giant wing, and know that it's still the same 200hp NA under the hood.


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