Originally Posted by Tor (Post 2897527)

Thank you both.

I assume you need a laptop connected to log with Ecutec (unless using their new Bluetooth connector)? Hence the question, since Tactrix would be a more compact solution.

Another question:
If starting out from an unlocked tune file which already includes Racerom, is it then Is it necessary to purchase Racerom to edit said tune (including modifying the Racerom features)?

Originally Posted by Kodename47 (Post 2897679)

ECU Connect is now available for Android too. You do indeed need RaceROM 9.1 patched ROMs.

On the standard dongle license (End User) you have access to:
Beginner, Intermediate and Advanced classified maps
Add RaceROM patches to base ROMs
Edit launch control, Flat Foot Shift and Aito-Blip on patched files

The RaceROM upgrade gives you access to:
Fuel and ignition timing maps for modes 2-4
Custom Maps

Originally Posted by steve99 (Post 2897687)

Thanks steve

Do you get access to set up blutooth app features on base proecu kit ? Assume you need custom msps to set up pops and map change though ?

Assume the logging via blutoith jyst works on eacerom 9.1?

But other fance stuff you would need racerom full access ?

If it now works on andriod thats great might even think about one :-)

You recon they will flash with it ever ? , Looks like a micro usb on back end of. Blutooth dongle is that used for anything ?

Originally Posted by Tor (Post 2898054)

Thanks a lot for all your answers.

My car is running really well as it is. Is it worthwhile switching to Ecutek? Are there any tools in in the Ecutek software that makes tuning easier compared to Romraider? Or is it the same footwork required?

It seems like I could copy over my present tune to Ecutek with just purchasing a cable and a license. Would I have any benefit except for the gimmicks like proper FFS? And would it be better to hold off and see if the cable will be completely replaceable with the BT adapter?

Originally Posted by COO86L (Post 2892940)

Just to add, this is the write up I send confused customers (of which there are a few)..

There are 5 components of the ecutek end user/retail system.

1. EcuTek OBDII cable
2. EcuTek dongle/usb key or its correct name "DESkey"
3. ProECU software
4. License
5. Tune file

All of these are separate things. The software and license are both software items and aren't physical.

The OBDII cable is used for transferring data from the ProECU software/laptop to your cars ECU.

The DESkey is a software encryption key that allows you to open ProECU on your computer. It is like a password for a program but it is physical and impossible to crack/hack. It's purely used so you can't copy the ProECU software, kind of like how some games etc used a product key.

The license is a string of code that attaches to your ProECU software until you write it to the cars ECU. The license, once applied to an ECU, is no longer connected to your particular EcuTek programming kit. You are free to use whatever cable and dongle you wish, otherwise people would be locked to one tuner and one tuner only.

The tune file is created by your tuner. If they are doing it in person, you won't see a copy of it. If you are doing it remotely, they will compile it and "key" it to your dongle ID (DESkey ID). This allows you to flash it to your car but not allow you to open, view or change any mapping. This doesn't lock your ECU either, but using EcuTek means you are locked to EcuTek's software UNLESS you flash a stock tune file, which will allow different programs access.

Originally Posted by Jaden (Post 2899390)

High end software programs have used dongle encryption for decades. Back in the day there were programs like dongle spy that record all the information that passes between the dongle and the dlls for the program and rewrite dlls with all of the encryption data already in them so that the software works.

That's how programs like 3D Studio Max and Lightwave 3D and Maya, etc.. have cracked versions out there.

That being said, I don't condone cracking software nor do I know how easily it can be done for this software, but to say it's impossible is a misnomer.

Jaden

Originally Posted by Tor (Post 2898054)

Thanks a lot for all your answers.

My car is running really well as it is. Is it worthwhile switching to Ecutek? Are there any tools in in the Ecutek software that makes tuning easier compared to Romraider? Or is it the same footwork required?

It seems like I could copy over my present tune to Ecutek with just purchasing a cable and a license. Would I have any benefit except for the gimmicks like proper FFS? And would it be better to hold off and see if the cable will be completely replaceable with the BT adapter?

Originally Posted by GsxrMe (Post 2899674)

Im lucky to have a protune thats unlocked. Im interested in adding ignition timing and adjusting my duty cycle on my Boost controller after my motor build is complete and broken in. Does anyone have an English guide that translates each table in EcuTek for a dumb down English for learning purposes?

Originally Posted by steve99 (Post 2899692)

Open the table theirs often help option

Theier is also some pdf documentation that comes with ecutek, but with the base proecu it its prety basic , tuner version you get more info

Boost controller is likely controlled by custom maps set up by tuner, so depends how they set it up might be their own setup usually uses evap purge solenoid output of ecu from memory.

Unfortunatly unleass you have racerom extension pack you cannot se or slter custom maps even in unlocked tune

Nice to see james martin still doing unlocked tunes

Originally Posted by GsxrMe (Post 2899674)

Im interested in adding ignition timing and adjusting my duty cycle on my Boost controller after my motor build is complete and broken in.