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ashtray 07-13-2012 04:24 PM

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7thgear 07-13-2012 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chantaiman51 (Post 312770)
That's exactly my point. As the ft86 is solely designed as a "feel good" car. Lap time is meaningless. Just don't understand what's the article or the OP trying to say the car did 9:09, and on a good day it could do 8:50.

what do you mean laptime is meaningless

this isn't a drag strip, this is the ring! 170 turns.

also the problem with lightweight cars is that it's harder to drive them at max speed on highspeed courses because it's just so damn scary to go into corners without much braking :/

alex86 07-13-2012 04:41 PM

video link?

ichitaka05 07-13-2012 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chantaiman51 (Post 312756)
10+ years old VW Lupo with 123hp has the same ring time at 9:09. Even at 8:50, it's still 22 second slower than an automatic Hyundai Genesis 3.8. Am I missing something? What's there to brag or be happy about?

Nope, nothing to brag about... and?

If I really do care about numbers, I would of chosen used M3, GC, WRX, EVO, Mustang, S2k, Supra, MR2, 350Z & all other number oriented cars.

BlaineWasHere 07-13-2012 05:38 PM

The Ring is a power track. Wanna post a fast time bring your 427 Vette.

RaceR 07-13-2012 05:49 PM

stock tires + damp and a laptime of 9.09 is just as expected, or maybe a couple small seconds slower. But I dont know how damp it was..
They reckon 8.50 with good tires. Just as predicted in my opinion.

I tought the 86 would be somewhere between 8.43-8.50 depending on tire compond. (down to 8.43 on Z1 star specs, and up to 8.50 on good high performance summer tires)
My estimates were based on GT5 times and looking at times from other cars.

Lets be real.
NSX 8:38
S2000 8.39

There was no chance of the 86 beating those cars. Or being very close.
8.43 or faster would not be achievable even if the 86 had very sticky road tires.
Cars like Civic Type R, and Mini Cooper S are around 8.50

There are several factors when it comes to Nordschleife laptimes. Not just weather, but there is also different drivers. Even good drivers can easily have 5 sec +/- compared to each other..

Allch Chcar 07-13-2012 05:49 PM

Hah, I voted >9:10 way back when since I didn't really care if it was fast.

BTW, here's the old prediction thread.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showpost.php?p=48722

ichitaka05 07-13-2012 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Allch Chcar (Post 313813)
Hah, I voted >9:10 way back when since I didn't really care if it was fast.

BTW, here's the old prediction thread.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showpost.php?p=48722

But don't forget 86 won VLN race this yr both stock & lightly modded

blu_ 07-13-2012 06:02 PM

They had a better race team. They didn't have close the fastest laps in either group. They just executed better over the course of 24hrs.

RaceR 07-13-2012 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allch Chcar (Post 313813)
Hah, I voted >9:10 way back when since I didn't really care if it was fast.

BTW, here's the old prediction thread.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showpost.php?p=48722

Yupp.. I remember that thread.. I voted 8.40-8.49 (with some of the best road tires). But I never tough the bone stock 86 with Primacy HP tires would do 8.49 or faster.
I have no idea what people were smoking when guessing 8.29 or faster... :bonk:

ichitaka05 07-13-2012 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RaceR (Post 313843)
Yupp.. I remember that thread.. I voted 8.40-8.49 (with some of the best road tires). But I never tough the bone stock 86 with Primacy HP tires would do 8.49 or faster.
I have no idea what people were smoking when guessing 8.29 or faster... :bonk:

They were guessing 86 will get special made tires just like S2k

RaceR 07-13-2012 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 313848)
They were guessing 86 will get special made tires just like S2k

Maybe they were guesstimating with the real car having.. ...one those special PINK paints you know! ;)

( Pink, Pink 2)

ichitaka05 07-13-2012 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RaceR (Post 313876)
Maybe they were guesstimating with the real car having.. ...one those special PINK paints you know! ;)

( Pink, Pink 2)

Damn right! Pink paint gives you more POWER~~

That's why BRZ won the gymkhana event! They had a pink in their design lol

SFTiofoso 07-13-2012 06:52 PM

I think a lap time around Suzuka or Tsukuba would be more meaningful.


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