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ichitaka05 04-13-2011 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Macavely (Post 33857)
That is fine.. Where I am from that is the terms we use... you don't have to agree with it. like it or use. it.. doesn't change how we talk about cars...
I'm not disagreeing with you or saying you're wrong. Chill my friend. Prob good idea to explain before hand, so at least OldSkool & others understand.

OldSkoolToys 04-13-2011 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 33856)
No they don't. The only unconventional term is NA-T referring to a 7MGE or 2JZGE that has been custom turbo'd. Common usage is simply 1JZ or 2JZ, automatic implication usually being that it is tubo'd. When specifying a setup you will hear '1JZ with stock twins', '2JZ with big single' never '2JZGTTE'.

2JZGTTE = Noob speak.

And referring to a 2JZGE/NA-T as a 2JZGTE is also a fail.

You are henceforth educated. :)
There's also 5A-GE, aka upping displacement via increasing stoke using a kit, and the 7A-GE, mating a 4A head to a 7A block, which basically does the same thing...with less headache.

Macavely 04-13-2011 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 33863)
I'm not disagreeing with you or saying you're wrong. Chill my friend. Prob good idea to explain before hand, so at least OldSkool & others understand.
I'm chilled.. don't worry about that.. I'm a really laid back person.. an interweb forum will never get me upset.. lol ..

Dimman 04-13-2011 10:29 PM
Yes, I'm just pissy over the Scion news. Nevermind me.

Back to the swap talk...

EJ series may end up being one of the first swaps, depending on how inter-changeable Subaru made the FB and EJ.

Macavely 04-13-2011 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 33864)
There's also 5A-GE, aka upping displacement via increasing stoke using a kit, and the 7A-GE, mating a 4A head to a 7A block, which basically does the same thing...with less headache.
Don't forget you can do the same with a 5S-FE and 3S-GE .. ..

OldSkoolToys 04-13-2011 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 33871)
Yes, I'm just pissy over the Scion news. Nevermind me.

Back to the swap talk...

EJ series may end up being one of the first swaps, depending on how inter-changeable Subaru made the FB and EJ.
Yeah, thats the first obvious choice...trying to keep it Toyota though...as a Toyota fanboi, there's gotta be an engine they have to swap in so it can be 'proper'.:bellyroll:

Macavely 04-13-2011 10:33 PM
This one could work 2AZ-FE .. this engine has been proven to handle boost every well.. it could make a nice swap for a time attack car..

Midship Runabout 04-13-2011 10:36 PM
Ya obviously the sti motor will be swapped first.
Also you can mount a 3sge vertically with a oil pan out of a 2s (i f I remember corrrectly)

And holy fuck, its the beggining of the end for this forum

OldSkoolToys 04-13-2011 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Midship Runabout (Post 33879)
Ya obviously the sti motor will be swapped first.
Also you can mount a 3sge vertically with a oil pan out of a 2s (i f I remember corrrectly)

And holy fuck, its the beggining of the end for this forum
Well the point on the 3S was that, such as the FT-86 is using a Flat 4 engine, instead of a taller inline, it might be an extremely hard swap trying to put an inline in there (all speculation as we can't examine the engine bay up close). A pro to the 3S being a suitable swap would be that you would have to install it at a slant, which would make it easier to clear the hoodline.

Macavely 04-13-2011 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 33882)
Well the point on the 3S was that, such as the FT-86 is using a Flat 4 engine, instead of a taller inline, it might be an extremely hard swap trying to put an inline in there (all speculation as we can't examine the engine bay up close). A pro to the 3S being a suitable swap would be that you would have to install it at a slant, which would make it easier to clear the hoodline.
Well if the hood clearance is the last problem someone is left with. that would be the simplest one to fix.

but I have a feeling that swap will be done by some one..if this car ever sees production.

Dimman 04-13-2011 10:51 PM
Subarus aren't too big on the extreme swaps. Usually just STI stuff going into non-STI cars, and the occasional H6 getting stuffed in where an H4 was originally.

Macavely 04-13-2011 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 33890)
Subarus aren't too big on the extreme swaps. Usually just STI stuff going into non-STI cars, and the occasional H6 getting stuffed in where an H4 was originally.
Most owners don't do extreme swaps... I really see this more of some company building a demo car and dropping a toyota motor and doing some crazy AE86 vs FT86 build..

Dimman 04-13-2011 11:05 PM
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...2&d=1298899483


Actually looks like an inline 4 could fit in there. Don't know how that would throw off the balance though...

OldSkoolToys 04-13-2011 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Macavely (Post 33889)
Well if the hood clearance is the last problem someone is left with. that would be the simplest one to fix.
Yeah, typically when swapping inline to inline and such it usually isn't. I've never done (or seen done) a Subaru flat swapped for a taller inline, especially in a subaru as small as the FT86 is going to be, so thats what I'm going off. It would seem since the chassis is designed around a relatively flat engine (in comparison to inline), it might pose more of an issue.:iono:


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