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xantonin 03-11-2011 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kage (Post 29337)
I HOPE toyota releases this as a hybrid. And as many other versions as possible...The more money they can make from this car the more they are likely to make more sports cars in the future...PERIOD

This.

Mk4UmHa 03-11-2011 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by xantonin (Post 29362)
This.

I wouldn't call a hybrid a sports car.

ft86cbx 03-12-2011 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mk4UmHa (Post 29374)
I wouldn't call a hybrid a sports car.

What? Not even if Porsche put the 918 Spyder - a hybrid electric concept that previews a future Carrera GT in to production?

Look, id much rather not go down the hybrid route until absolutely necessary, but face facts, things are heading in this direction.

I cant personally see it happening for the 86, but in my opinion I could see Toyota doing a watered down version of something along these lines http://gazoo.com/racing/english/grmn...detail_shc.asp in the not to distant future.

Dark 03-12-2011 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ft86cbx (Post 29401)
What? Not even if Porsche put the 918 Spyder - a hybrid electric concept that previews a future Carrera GT in to production?

Look, id much rather not go down the hybrid route until absolutely necessary, but face facts, things are heading in this direction.

I cant personally see it happening for the 86, but in my opinion I could see Toyota doing a watered down version of something along these lines http://gazoo.com/racing/english/grmn...detail_shc.asp in the not to distant future.

I agree.
@Mk4UmHa
Hybrid is the future. Electric is another step ahead. Whether you like it or not, you have to accept that future sport cars will be powered by electricity. Look at Tesla, you will have some idea of the future sport car.

Riden86 03-12-2011 08:51 PM

Hybrid should help the car pass emission standard.

xantonin 03-12-2011 09:01 PM

Hybrid might be handy if they pair it with the normal performance FT-86, so that it just drives the car when not in "performance mode".

This would require that the car is still the same core car, much like the 2009 Camry Hybrid still uses the same engine as the normal Camry so it's still decently "quick" (for a Camry).

Unfortunately, I doubt this would ever be a reality for the simple fact that adding in a Hybrid motor and batteries would add a significant amount of weight to the car.

Midship Runabout 03-12-2011 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark (Post 29442)
I agree.
@Mk4UmHa
Hybrid is the future. Electric is another step ahead. Whether you like it or not, you have to accept that future sport cars will be powered by electricity. Look at Tesla, you will have some idea of the future sport car.

I would have to disagree. I believe hybrids an EV's are the "it" thing for the next few years. But diesel is the real future of automobiles. But that's just my opinion.

Mr.Jay 03-12-2011 09:33 PM

I disagree completely about hybrid sports cars being the future since the only good ones name have 100k+ price tags and the only low budget hybrid sports car the CR-Z is a failure in every aspect of hybrid and sports car.

iff2mastamatt 03-12-2011 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Jay (Post 29492)
I disagree completely about hybrid sports cars being the future since the only good ones name have 100k+ price tags and the only low budget hybrid sports car the CR-Z is a failure in every aspect of hybrid and sports car.

I concur, I used to think hybrids were awesome but the price tag doesn't justify the purchase. Plus, electric cars are a little far fetched anyways. There ok for limited production but lithium is a natural resource like oil and there is not nearly enough lithium on earth to power every car for even the next 10 years.

xantonin 03-12-2011 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by iff2mastamatt (Post 29497)
I concur, I used to think hybrids were awesome but the price tag doesn't justify the purchase. Plus, electric cars are a little far fetched anyways. There ok for limited production but lithium is a natural resource like oil and there is not nearly enough lithium on earth to power every car for even the next 10 years.

That's right. And battery technology has made little to no advancement in the last few years.

Not only that, but I do not believe there as a single battery that will last for a decent amount of time and still hold a decent amount of charge.

Dimman 03-12-2011 10:02 PM

They can make biodiesel. Does anyone know if they can make bio-gasoline?

xantonin 03-12-2011 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 29504)
They can make biodiesel. Does anyone know if they can make bio-gasoline?

I don't think so, because the combustion is caused by the compression in diesel where it's easier to compress a bunch of crap as fuel, where as gasoline needs a spark.

My friend runs his Super Duty off of straight used motor oil (filtered down to 2 microns though). He said though that biodiesel wasn't too impressive. Still it ran.

Personally I'd like to see a diesel hybrid, diesel sports car (think turbo), and a diesel bike. Hell, why don't they make straight up electric motorcycles? You can't say they are too heavy to move with an electric engine...

Dimman 03-12-2011 10:21 PM

I mean bio-diesel is refined from vegetable oil instead of mineral oil. Gas is refined from mineral oil too, so could they refine gas from vegetable oil?

If not, I would go for bio-ethanol. More power-friendly in a form I recognize (ie not diesel).

ryun84 03-13-2011 01:22 AM

No.

Hydrogen Fuel Cells are the future of automobiles!


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