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track_warrior 07-01-2012 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DookDookDGM (Post 290313)
what did you use for your sound tube delete?

JMS put something together in literally 5 mins, i have no idea what it was but i did not use it since it loses hp. I think they used a cut samco hose and a aluminum plug, literally took 5 mins to fab something to cover the hole.


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Originally Posted by dabocx (Post 290299)
JMS does pretty dam good work from what ive seen, ill most likely go get a tune from them once i get my bolt ons


You should man, im going to be their guinea pig :)

Motopythons 07-01-2012 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsguy83 (Post 290052)
Very kind words, thank you for contributing to the topic!



On topic: Perrin or Nameless had already tried the no filter option and confirmed power loss.

Interesting on the sound tube delete. Thanks for the pics!

My point exactly. This post is pointless.

ultra 07-01-2012 02:04 PM

Contrary to all the Zzs out there, thanks for sharing your results and taking the time to document everything.

It's great to have more and more baseline data on the car!

uspspro 07-01-2012 02:36 PM

more data is always good.

Thanks for posting

GirlyScions 07-01-2012 06:20 PM

I assume 93 gas?
How dose the sound tube work? Dose it pull air through it as well? Interesting you got more power with it.

Sportsguy83 07-01-2012 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Motopythons (Post 290420)
My point exactly. This post is pointless.

Give the guy a break man, pretty sure he had no idea about it, and was surprised to see power loss.

track_warrior 07-01-2012 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsguy83 (Post 290693)
Give the guy a break man, pretty sure he had no idea about it, and was surprised to see power loss.

Exactly plus its always nice to have more sources!! But haters always gonna hate specially on an internet forum...

I was surprised that the sound tube made a loss!!

track_warrior 07-01-2012 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GirlyScions (Post 290680)
I assume 93 gas?
How dose the sound tube work? Dose it pull air through it as well? Interesting you got more power with it.

No idea how it works but i know it directs sound to through the firewall, i was so surprised deleting it made a loss in power.

Shagaliscious 07-01-2012 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GirlyScions (Post 290680)
I assume 93 gas?
How dose the sound tube work? Dose it pull air through it as well? Interesting you got more power with it.

The sound tube is supposed to bring the sound into the cabin of the car. It is weird it causes a loss of power.

How many miles were on the car when you did these runs?

GirlyScions 07-01-2012 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Shagaliscious (Post 290708)
The sound tube is supposed to bring the sound into the cabin of the car. It is weird it causes a loss of power.

How many miles were on the car when you did these runs?

Is the sound tube hollow? How is it connected to the main intake, meaning can air go from the intake into the sound tube?

If the sound tube delete lost power Im guessing it pulls air through it or it has something to do with turbulence.

Shagaliscious 07-01-2012 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GirlyScions (Post 290722)
Is the sound tube hollow? How is it connected to the main intake, meaning can air go from the intake into the sound tube?

If the sound tube delete lost power Im guessing it pulls air through it or it has something to do with turbulence.

I would think it's hollow. If you look at this picture, the airbox is in the top right corner, and the red plug is where the sound tube would connect to.
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...S/ccff08a3.jpg

Symbiont 07-01-2012 07:39 PM

There is no air that passes through the sound tube.

When Injen put my intake on, they also did a sound tube delete, and it's clear that it's a path for sound waves, only.

jedibow 07-01-2012 07:58 PM

Deleting the sound tube does not lose power, what lost power was allowing the car the cool off between runs. Pcasso if you have a chance do back to back runs with out letting the car cool offf once the sound tube has been removed. When I dyno'd my car the last of three back to back pulls always showed the highest torque and horsepower figures, and once I let the car cool off, I was back to square one, even after removing the sound tube. Scientifically, do three runs, back to back to back. Do not let the car cool off, then do three back to back to back runs with the tube removed, all you have to do is disconnect it, and install the plug (taking the time to completely remove it will allow the car to cool off. I learned this from experience.

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Jimbo 07-01-2012 07:59 PM

I wonder if you just did three runs back-to-back with no changes whatsoever - what would be the normal run-to-run variations? Seems like these small changes could well be within the "noise" and natural variation of the system.


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