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Calum 02-05-2016 10:57 AM

That sounds distinctly like a strut mount bearing. The stock ones are typically very robust, they have an excellent bearing. If you happen to have a bad one I wouldn't hesitate to replace it with another OEM one and chalk yours up to bad luck. If you're looking for an upgrade group n mounts also work really well and stiffen things up a bit. Beyond that there's a host of adjustable camber plates, but I prefer the streetability of rubber based mount so I don't have any experience with the all metal ones.

Shankenstein 02-05-2016 01:47 PM

As Calum said... it sounds like the strut mount's bearing. If it's not freely rotating, you'll get some noise as the strut is forcefully re-aligning. Kind of similar to coil spring bind.

Generally, strut mounts don't go bad this early in the car's life... but if the bearing is worn and loose, you get "clunk" noises over potholes. If there's corrosion or dirt/gunk, it can bind up.

For a good overview of the strut mounts (top hats), check out RSD's unboxing vid:
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee5aRsxOHOA"]STI Group N Front Upper Strut Mount - What's in the Box? - YouTube[/ame]

I am not affiliated with RSD, just using their video to facilitate discussion.

D_Thissen 02-05-2016 02:09 PM

Thanks guys. Is there an easy way to check them ? With our taking the strut assembly out ? For example, can I put bearing grease in and see if the kills the noise any?

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Calum 02-05-2016 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by D_Thissen (Post 2537108)
Thanks guys. Is there an easy way to check them ? With our taking the strut assembly out ? For example, can I put bearing grease in and see if the kills the noise any?

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No, sorry, but if you want to check it you need to remove it. The bearing should move smoothly, with only a little resistance. Like pulling a magnet across your fridge. If there's any binding at all, you need to replace it.

Leonardo 02-05-2016 03:29 PM

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAWoP1kncRE"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAWoP1kncRE[/ame]


Yes suspension changes cause noises. Mine does it too.

Racecomp Engineering 02-05-2016 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calum (Post 2536811)
That sounds distinctly like a strut mount bearing. The stock ones are typically very robust, they have an excellent bearing. If you happen to have a bad one I wouldn't hesitate to replace it with another OEM one and chalk yours up to bad luck. If you're looking for an upgrade group n mounts also work really well and stiffen things up a bit. Beyond that there's a host of adjustable camber plates, but I prefer the streetability of rubber based mount so I don't have any experience with the all metal ones.

I agree with this fully. While it is rare, it is possible and the most likely variable in this case.

Group N mounts are more robust and the tolerance in the bearing housing and bearings used are better than OEM. Its not just the higher durometer of rubber.
(Source: Prodrive 2004 group-n PDF)

Myles

Calum 02-05-2016 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 2537323)
I agree with this fully. While it is rare, it is possible and the most likely variable in this case.

Group N mounts are more robust and the tolerance in the bearing housing and bearings used are better than OEM. Its not just the higher durometer of rubber.
(Source: Prodrive 2004 group-n PDF)

Myles

Today I learned, thanks Myles.

cdrazic93 02-05-2016 08:14 PM

yayyy claps for myles for teaching me something! but actually, thank ya. Although with intense observation with two compared side to side I would have probably said the same thing, just never thought of it.

Futaba 02-05-2016 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D_Thissen (Post 2537108)
Thanks guys. Is there an easy way to check them ? With our taking the strut assembly out ? For example, can I put bearing grease in and see if the kills the noise any?

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It's not exactly an accurate way of pinning down the exact part but I'd suggest lifting the bonnet and having someone turn the steering wheel with your ear down by the top of the stut, compare the noise from both sides then keep moving around till the sounds at its loudest, if its loudest with your ear right above the top of the strut then its highly likely to be the bearing.

Another thing to test is, while the wheels turning left and right, watch the spring, if should turn freely with the whole assembly, if it stutters or stops entirely and spuns in steps at all then your bearings the culprit, and is preventing the spring from rotating cleanly.

D_Thissen 02-06-2016 04:30 PM

Thanks for all the help guys, I appreciate it. Ill have to swing by the dealership and get a new top mount and swap them out. Hopefully that solves it.

D_Thissen 02-06-2016 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering (Post 2537323)
I agree with this fully. While it is rare, it is possible and the most likely variable in this case.

Group N mounts are more robust and the tolerance in the bearing housing and bearings used are better than OEM. Its not just the higher durometer of rubber.
(Source: Prodrive 2004 group-n PDF)

Myles

Are these to top mounts Myles?
https://tougetuning.com/product/grou...07-subaru-wrx/

Calum 02-07-2016 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by D_Thissen (Post 2538469)


That's the upgraded version that I was talking about. They're still very streetable. I wouldn't run one of these on one side and the original on the other side, but that price is for a pair so as long as you don't mind doing the work that will work.

Before you buy though, you might want to ensure the strut bearing is actually the problem. Troubleshooting over the internet isn't exactly an exact science.

GT86Moi 02-10-2016 12:19 AM

I kinda had some minor popping when I had my 14 FRS after upgraded to coil over and I thought it was normal but I never had another set of wheels on it just stock. But now I have a 16 brz and that popping nice came thru after I tried some other wheels 18x9.5 and they were kinda heavy compared to stock. I sold the aftermarket wheel set once I was in stock wheels when ever I would turn my steering wheel the popping sound became more noticeable. I did some research and I guess the rack and pinion came a little loose torqued it down to 55 foot-pound and the sound was gone. And I actually tracked down the sound after I dismounted the front wheels, turned the car on not fully on but for the electric rack pinion to move with ease, the popping noise was on just the driver side


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