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-   -   Is anyone else on the fence due to the engine choice? (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=673)

70NYD 12-25-2010 06:01 PM

Yeh but realistically it won't cost that much. Like fully tunnable suspension isnt 20000, exhaust isn't 15000, chassis bracing isn't 20000, fully worked engine isn't 100000 and so on. Upgrades in the game (apart from the ecu) are freakishly over priced. A total build like that would be expensive yes, but nowhere nearly to the 500k mark. And the standard car is freaking awesome to begin with :D

OldSkoolToys 12-26-2010 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Conor (Post 17191)
I'm sorely disappointed that they're not using something like the IS350's 3.5L V6 in this car

Stopped there.


This isn't a Supra successor, its an AE86 successor.

370z's are nice though bro, I'd go check one of those out.

ichitaka05 12-26-2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Calais (Post 23792)
yes but it also costs 500,000cr in the game...

for G's. Normal FT86c is 300k... & c'mon only 300k. I can make that in less than 10 mins (3 races).

Calais 12-27-2010 02:47 AM

lol yer just poking fun.

p.s. im kind of getting bored with the game...:scared0016:

70NYD 12-27-2010 03:57 AM

I got ac brotherhood it's keeping me pretty occupied :D

Franisco 12-27-2010 03:45 PM

I just got em both, and in all truth I probably wont play GT5 until Brotherhood is done. I fired it up and the load times made me turn it right back off =/

ichitaka05 12-27-2010 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Calais (Post 23826)
lol yer just poking fun.

p.s. im kind of getting bored with the game...:scared0016:

LOL if you think so, then come join me drifting down part of Nur (midnight). Pitch black and can't see anything other than where headlights are aiming. If you can keep up w me then you can play other games j/k

But seriously when you see me online message and and we'll drift down the Nur.

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Originally Posted by Franisco (Post 23833)
I just got em both, and in all truth I probably wont play GT5 until Brotherhood is done. I fired it up and the load times made me turn it right back off =/

First time only take million yrs to load up. After you went to the area once, it load a lot faster.

70NYD 12-27-2010 11:15 PM

If u do the install originally that takes the hour to do, everything loads fast as later. And it's sais it's 8gb install.. Bullshit, ac is a 4 gb install and it took 15 min at best.. I reckon GT5 is more like 12gb if not more install on the hdd

SUB-FT86 12-28-2010 06:25 PM

I wouldn't want the the IS350's V6 in this car to mess up the F/R balance. I would rather the 2.5l turbocharged boxer from the WRX with Toyota's D/I system implemented.

Bernigts 01-12-2011 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Snaps (Post 19639)
Allch, IMO it would be pointless if Toyota made a 'new' version of the AE86 that was just as fast as the 25 year old one... That's technology almost going backwards. The whole point is to make a car faster, and more efficient at the same time, while retaining or adding extra amenities.

One example I can think of is the RX7 vs. RX8. The RX7 is arguably faster in most situations, if not all, so I'm not sure why Mazda brought out the RX8 in the first place, it was supposed to be the succesor to the RX7 and they couldn't even make it faster with more techonoly and research.

It would be like Ferrari bringing out the 458 and it ends up being slower than the previous 430.... Just doesn't make sense.


Toyota did it!

Corolla XRS 05 with the 2zz-ge (1.8L) was more powerfull then the new one with the 2.4L from the camry.

WHY?
Easier to drive, period. PPL was not buying the XRS because it was not a userfriendly engine.

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Now i read every post of this topic, pretty funny i have to say.
I think IMOP that subaru plant is a wrong choice.
1.6L is outdated,
1.8L could be good
2L engine is perfect, I do agree, knowing that Toyota was able to get 170hp out of a 1.6L (Black top VVT-i 4age) was amazing.
Knowing that Toyota got 180hp out of a 1.8L engine (2zz-ge) and Lotus get it up to 190hp NA that nice.

I just imagine that they could get 220hp out of a 2L NA engine.

Now, knowing that XRS in 2005 weight 1200kg 4 Door sedan, i can expect a 2door small car to weight under 1100kg without any difficulty.

So : 220hp NA high rev Toyota/Yamaha engine in +/- 1100kg? I buy 2 of them!

305hp turbocharged boxter in ft-86: i wait 2 year if not 3 to be sure engine dont blow to much, the 2.5L found in STI 08+ sux! (I own one, i know what im talking about!)

Allch Chcar 01-12-2011 03:39 PM

Well Bern, the displacement isn't about being outdated it's whether it slows the car down too much. A too small of displacement would make it underpowered whereas a too large of displacement would be bad for FE, weight, handling, aka peripheral factors. The size of the engine is a big factor in how large the engine bay needs to be and how sturdy the components must be designed which also affects the weight.

And one of the toyota execs has already stated they could get greedy and produce 230PS or about 228 BHP. This is Toyota's responsible sportys car. Not like the CR-Zzz but not like the Honda S2000 either.

The point I make is since it's going to be packed with technology it doesn't have to be big. And since the turbo model is the mid-upper range the base doesn't need to be powerful either. The base engine needs to be cheap and reliable. The turbo engine is where the fun is at.

Matador 01-14-2011 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Allch Chcar (Post 24552)
And one of the toyota execs has already stated they could get greedy and produce 230PS or about 228 BHP. This is Toyota's responsible sportys car. Not like the CR-Zzz but not like the Honda S2000 either.

Not exec, engineer. The lead engineer for the FT-86 project to be precise.

NESW20 01-14-2011 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Allch Chcar (Post 24552)
The turbo engine is where the fun is at.

my n/a will be plenty fun...

Allch Chcar 01-14-2011 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1 (Post 24621)
Not exec, engineer. The lead engineer for the FT-86 project to be precise.

yeahyeah, that guy.


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Originally Posted by NESW20
my n/a will be plenty fun...

Ba-dum-dish
:thanks:
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