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Dave-ROR 10-21-2011 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by suprachica79 (Post 65624)
Most guys on here don't want one because it takes headroom away which is vital to many of the guys who wear helmets and race. I personally want one and hope it is an option.

That's why I don't want one. And it's pointless. I have it in one car but not the in the other. I never use it in one and never miss it in the other. I don't even know if it works in the one.. I think I've used it twice in 11 years.

I don't care if it's an option, as long as it's not standard. That would seriously make me look elsewhere.

Dave-ROR 10-21-2011 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86 (Post 65634)
This guy thinks he's funny.

I thought his insight was both accurate and funny.

:)

fernan2 10-21-2011 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by coyote (Post 65631)
They have already planned an automatic version for that market.

this^^^^

blofeld42 10-21-2011 10:11 PM

BTW, I'd have suspected that other magazines and blogs were also invited to the event. So I'm surprised that some mention of it hasn't popped up in other venues.

82mm 4g63 10-21-2011 10:16 PM

Toyota should just say "F*** you Subaru" by designing a new Supra that is ridiculously fast, efficient and affordable.

:happy0180:

Buggy51 10-21-2011 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86 (Post 65509)
Buggy51 i'm not saying 28k is a fair price for the base car. I was talking about a turbocharged model being over that price is reasonable. 28k is way too much for a base model FT86 in America. 23k is gorgeous...lmfao!!!

Ah my bad lol. Gotcha, agree with you there, though i wouldn't mind seeing it being 21k :P

Jordo! 10-21-2011 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by madfast (Post 65614)
this assumption by auto manufacturers annoys me... a properly designed auto can rival the DCTs and AMTs of the world...

if these assumptions show up in the FT, i'll instantly lose faith in this car...

See further the brilliantly designed 7AT in the 370Z. Just a trick slushbox, but soooo fast on the shifts and capable of being tuned to be even faster without changing the valve body.

Wait... "driver's car" = lacks power and has a clutch pedal... I completely forgot this law that came from the bearded lips of God.

Those crappy supercars with their flappy paddle gear boxes are an affront to the faithful everywhere :iono:

Geard 10-22-2011 01:54 AM

I just hope the car comes with 5x114.3 bolt pattern....and that toyota designed the engine/trans/diff... at least a strut knock is an easy fix!
Personaly I feel that anything but Manual is an insult to a sports car. Sitting there and letting the car do the work for you while you drink your morning coffee seems pretty damn weak.

ichitaka05 10-22-2011 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86 (Post 65593)
Probably because it's a 2.0 liter and not a 2.5l?

No, current 2L H4 isn't gutless at low rpm. I can tell you that for sure. Out of other 2L 4 cylinders, I'll say EJ20 is up there. Also FB20 is 145hp, but it comes w 145tq too! Don't underestimate boxer engine... BUT again, engine is setup for AWD... so not sure FA20's gonna be

KevinDuMa 10-22-2011 04:52 AM

As for the sun roof, there is no need for a sun roof, at least for me. I've owned 4 cars all with a sun roof and have not used it in any of them. If anything have it as an option.

Farred 10-22-2011 04:54 AM

i have mixed feelings on the sunroof. i have it in the si and i always keep it closed but everyone once in a blue moon i will tilt the sunroof to pull some air out. i like the fact that the evo x didnt have one but i missed the blue moon cracking. call me crazy. dont know what i want for this car tho.

SUB-FT86 10-22-2011 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 65638)
I thought his insight was both accurate and funny.

:)

As for it being accurate? That is your opinion, this isn't 1995 where you had a full auto transmission. This is just retarded hatred from you manual only types and you know it.

Matador 10-22-2011 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by madfast (Post 65564)
its possible on paper, but i'm looking for a real life example of a 2.0L 4 cyl engine that makes 170 ft lbs in production form. anybody have examples? :iono:

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Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 65582)
Absolutely right. I'm confident with my 5200-5400 rpm guess for the torque peak if it does 170 lb-ft.

Edit... Remember that the BEAMS 3SGE managed 159 lb-ft from a 2.0L about a decade ago.

Beams in the RS200 made a lillte over 160ft-lbs @ 6000rpm.. say ~163 I think.
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Originally Posted by Sea1monkey2 (Post 65607)
:sm3:?

+1

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Originally Posted by 82mm 4g63 (Post 65644)
Toyota should just say "F*** you Subaru" by designing a new Supra that is ridiculously fast, efficient and affordable.

:happy0180:

:word: :happy0180:

Not sure how "affordable" it would be though.

Dave-ROR 10-22-2011 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86 (Post 65701)
As for it being accurate? That is your opinion, this isn't 1995 where you had a full auto transmission. This is just retarded hatred from you manual only types and you know it.


Sorry man, I just don't see the point of an automatic in a sports car. To me the point of driving a sports car is the experience, the engagement, the driver enjoyment. An automatic errodes on all of that.

I'm cool with an automatic if I ever decide to buy a Lexus LS430 though. That, IMO, is where an automatic belongs.

At least Honda did it right for many years with their top model sporty/sports cars. If you want the good one, learn to drive a manual or GTFO. :)


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