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pkptd447 11-27-2011 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Praetendere (Post 80590)
I really hope the price doesn't jump above ~$25000, or I'll have zero chance of being able to afford one. I'll end up getting myself a used S2000 or something.

exactly my thoughts as i'm reading through this...

tripjammer 11-28-2011 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 80983)
Agreed.

Oh and Thanks Leeky!! :)

Yeah they not speakers i saw the pic with the side speaker in the rear...

tripjammer 11-28-2011 12:37 AM

Thats how you do it when you are the master pimp in the auto industry!
Leeky should have taken pictures like this...:party0030:
http://fsv-image.autoc-one.jp/images/911149/034_o.jpg
But again thanks for all the info. :thanks:

RRnold 11-28-2011 01:32 AM

Thanks Leeky and your trip seems well worth it!

If 1000 is indeed true, it looks like we are now down to 992 units! :lol:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...7&d=1322426769

Chokonen888 11-28-2011 01:45 AM

Hey Leeky, where are you staying? PM me your contact info if you need any help with anything while you're here.

As for the numbers issue everyone is talking about, it sounds like what will be made for Japan only. As far as numbers being written differently in Japanese, I don't think that's the issue.

For example, 2,500,000 Yen if often written as 250万円 where the 万 means 10,000.

1,000 can be written as 千

Not sure how the two would be confused unless the translator sucked...but then again, most of the Japanese career Engrish teachers here can't speak enough English to save their life.

tommy 11-28-2011 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Leeky (Post 80297)
The car is confimed for a worldwide release in April 2012.
The car will be limited to 1000 units per year only.

April 1st, by any chance? ;p

Giccin 11-28-2011 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chokonen888 (Post 81097)
Hey Leeky, where are you staying? PM me your contact info if you need any help with anything while you're here.

As for the numbers issue everyone is talking about, it sounds like what will be made for Japan only. As far as numbers being written differently in Japanese, I don't think that's the issue.

For example, 2,500,000 Yen if often written as 250万円 where the 万 means 10,000.

1,000 can be written as 千

Not sure how the two would be confused unless the translator sucked...but then again, most of the Japanese career Engrish teachers here can't speak enough English to save their life.

That is... very true. 10,000 sounds more reasonable. 1,000 sounds like a super exotic. lol

Tsinoy 11-28-2011 01:56 AM

sad :(

Kostamojen 11-28-2011 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Giccin (Post 81103)
That is... very true. 10,000 sounds more reasonable. 1,000 sounds like a super exotic. lol

My guess is 1000 per week. Thats the only number that makes sense.

LionZoo 11-28-2011 02:29 AM

Well keep in mind East Asian languages count in ten thousands while Western European languages count in thousands. What I mean is where English goes one - ten - hundred - thousand and then resets to one thousand - ten thousand - hundred thousand etc. etc., East Asian languages go 一 (1) - 十 (10) - 百(100) - 千 (1,000) - 万 (10,000) - and then resets to 一万 (10,000) - 十万 (100,000) - 百万 (1,000,000) and so forth. I definitely know people that have just moved that have confused thousand and ten thousand simply because the numbers are counted differently in Asian languages compared to English.

kiya 11-28-2011 03:22 AM

There is some confusion here due to the translation of languages.
I've been doing close business with the Japanese for many years, i don't speak much Japanese and i always use an interpreter for every trip to Japan which i take every few months.

The Japanese have a hard time translating numbers.
Many times 1,000,000 turns into 1,000 or 100 turns into 10,000,000.
It's the number of zeros that is always way off. If you understand the industry (which i'd hope you would if you were even in the position of dealing with a Japanese company) then you'd understand the number.

Also, the Japanese say "hand made" to anything that they consider to be made with more caution than their average domestic product. Everything from noodles to jeans to electronics. So basically this means nothing other than "this car was made by Japanese people only".

Chokonen888 11-28-2011 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by LionZoo (Post 81113)
Well keep in mind East Asian languages count in ten thousands while Western European languages count in thousands. What I mean is where English goes one - ten - hundred - thousand and then resets to one thousand - ten thousand - hundred thousand etc. etc., East Asian languages go 一 (1) - 十 (10) - 百(100) - 千 (1,000) - 万 (10,000) - and then resets to 一万 (10,000) - 十万 (100,000) - 百万 (1,000,000) and so forth. I definitely know people that have just moved that have confused thousand and ten thousand simply because the numbers are counted differently in Asian languages compared to English.

....and since we're only talking about 1,000, 一万 and 一千 would only get confused if the translator sucked. (which I am betting they did)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiya (Post 81136)
The Japanese have a hard time translating numbers.
Many times 1,000,000 turns into 1,000 or 100 turns into 10,000,000.
It's the number of zeros that is always way off. If you understand the industry (which i'd hope you would if you were even in the position of dealing with a Japanese company) then you'd understand the number.

We say "One hundred thousand" and they say "Ten ten thousand." Any competent translator should have no problem with this...and it only comes into play with numbers 10,000 and and above though...which is why I am guessing the translator just sucked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiya (Post 81136)
Also, the Japanese say "hand made" to anything that they consider to be made with more caution than their average domestic product. Everything from noodles to jeans to electronics. So basically this means nothing other than "this car was made by Japanese people only".

手作り (hand made) isn't used like that but 生”nama" sure is...everything sounds better with it...name beer, nama chocolate, nama ham, nama sex :D

Esclaw 11-28-2011 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by tommy (Post 81100)
April 1st, by any chance? ;p

They're watching us squirm and cry over the limited quantity of the 86. :cry:

scape 11-28-2011 06:26 AM

hand assembled is not hard to believe, there are a few hand assembly plants for toyota cars (mostly for small markets) of specific models. i recently read an article about one being put up for I think it was taiwan (don't quote me on that.) an interior hand assembled will be a dream, in my opinion.
1000/year is disappointing, but then again I don't understand why there is a scion and toyota version. there should only be toyota.

what i want to see is some track numbers.


where is the video leeky promised? :D


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