Originally Posted by tommy (Post 65606)

I hope they aren't implying it won't have a sunroof option. I want a sunroof.

Originally Posted by Sea1monkey2 (Post 65607)

:sm3:?

Originally Posted by old greg (Post 65589)

Only if the auto trans is a POS. The Altezza auto trans was too weak to take the full torque of the BEAMS 3SGE, and the torque converter in the RX8's auto trans couldn't be spun to the full rpm of the Renesis 13B.

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly (Post 65601)

This may have been said already, but 210*5252/6500=170, so we know it makes 170lb/ft at least from 4000 to 6500. I'm sure it falls flat on its face after that though. Maybe I will do some math later but I think shifting at 6500 should keep you right in the power band with a close ratio 6 speed, so it should be plenty torquey when driven properly. Of course this still all depends on the weight. 170lb/ft in a 2800 car would be pretty lame I think.

Originally Posted by Dimman (Post 65609)

and b) people buying auto are less likely to be banging off redline shifts, and drive with the 'power under the curve.

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly (Post 65601)

This may have been said already, but 210*5252/6500=170, so we know it makes 170lb/ft at least from 4000 to 6500. I'm sure it falls flat on its face after that though. Maybe I will do some math later but I think shifting at 6500 should keep you right in the power band with a close ratio 6 speed, so it should be plenty torquey when driven properly. Of course this still all depends on the weight. 170lb/ft in a 2800 car would be pretty lame I think.

Originally Posted by Neutral_Eyes (Post 65602)

Nice ninja edit. :D

Originally Posted by serialk11r (Post 65612)

Uh what? What do you mean "we know it makes 170lb/ft at least from 4000 to 6500"? It looks like you're assuming power is constant, which is completely false.

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly (Post 65619)

Lol. I need to start reading my posts before I hit submit.



Peak torque is 170 at 4000 rpm. Peak hp is 210 at 6500rpm = 170lb/ft, meaning it is still making peak tq at that point. After that, tq falls off quickly, or else peak hp would be higher. Unless the torque dips in the middle and then comes back up (I don't think I've ever seen that), it will make 170 between those two RPMs.

Originally Posted by tommy (Post 65608)

You don't want a sunroof?

Originally Posted by tommy (Post 65608)

You don't want a sunroof?

Originally Posted by Aki (Post 65622)

An extra 50 lbs at the highest point of the car? No thanks.

Originally Posted by Aki (Post 65622)

An extra 50 lbs at the highest point of the car? No thanks.

Originally Posted by quik1987 (Post 65627)

I'd rather them sell an alternate convertable version for women and people going through mid-life crisis.

Originally Posted by coyote (Post 65631)

They have already planned an automatic version for that market.