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Levi 03-28-2016 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by fuddbutter (Post 2596494)
So should we just file this under vapourware?


It is not vapourware. It is just that it costs a lot more to make a "factory swap" and that this kit can't get made road legal in Germany. Could be different in the US. Given the situation of Stohl Racing's product and that it is not commercially viable, I think they should open-source the whole information they have to the USA, where there is higher probability of doing such swaps given the higher number of Subaru with FA20DIT and BRZ/86 in general.

extrashaky 03-28-2016 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Levi (Post 2599643)
It is not vapourware.

It's vaporware if it doesn't make it to market, regardless of whether he has a working prototype. He keeps promising results, then not meeting the timetables he sets out. Suspecting that it's vaporware isn't unreasonable at this point.

DVNARC 03-29-2016 11:30 AM

How does this change the handling of the 86? The FA20 is amazing around corners

Tbird232ci 03-29-2016 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DVNARC (Post 2601318)
How does this change the handling of the 86? The FA20 is amazing around corners

I'd imagine that it's barely noticable. Essentially, you're only adding the weight of a turbo and intercooler. Still an FA20.

I was really hoping that either they finished the kit, or someone else would try this. I feel that even the engine and "install kit" cost around 8-10K, it would be a better over-all result. You may be able to get better power per dollar elsewhere, but the reliability of a factory turbo engine is best.

Evil Rocky 02-10-2017 10:12 AM

I would love to do this. Now makes me want to wait a little more on buying my supercharger.

No major hurry, can't rush perfection and reliability.

Popper86Thailand 06-19-2017 05:34 AM

I have fa20dit engine because my gt86 engine has problems. I'm about to install it instead of fa20 on it's corrupt. We do not know whether it is difficult or easy, but it must be done before we know it.

KR-S 06-21-2017 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Popper86Thailand (Post 2931176)
I have fa20dit engine because my gt86 engine has problems. I'm about to install it instead of fa20 on it's corrupt. We do not know whether it is difficult or easy, but it must be done before we know it.

I have absolutely no idea what you just said.

Andrew025 06-21-2017 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by KR-S 86 (Post 2932488)
I have absolutely no idea what you just said.

They don't think it be like it is, but it do.

nikitopo 06-21-2017 02:29 AM

Too bad this project never went live. Last time they told me that they couldn't get a TÜV approval. It would be possible to use it here only for racing.

Ernest72 06-21-2017 10:37 AM

Adding 10-20K to this car gets me thinking about other cars in that price range. It looks like a fun little project but it will have little commercial value. Even if a bunch of kids buy it. I will wait and pick one up from one of these kids for dirt cheap when its all done, maybe. Learn from others, project cars very rarely get anywhere close to the money spent on re-sale. Most people don't want the risk and with the increased price there are some nice cars with factory warranties.

If I had a bunch of money, why not because a project car process is always fun. Hope he at least gets to enjoy his car even if its never available.

ryoma 06-21-2017 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ernest72 (Post 2932657)
Adding 10-20K to this car gets me thinking about other cars in that price range. It looks like a fun little project but it will have little commercial value. Even if a bunch of kids buy it. I will wait and pick one up from one of these kids for dirt cheap when its all done, maybe. Learn from others, project cars very rarely get anywhere close to the money spent on re-sale. Most people don't want the risk and with the increased price there are some nice cars with factory warranties.

If I had a bunch of money, why not because a project car process is always fun. Hope he at least gets to enjoy his car even if its never available.

I spent 10k+ on my 1986 MR2 with an engine swap that took almost a year (10k+ just for the engine swap and supporting mods). owned it for about a year and half after the swap was completed before selling it for half that price. was it worth it? probably not and there was a lot of work to be done due to it being an old car. however, it sure was fun as hell with 280whp in a little car. sold it for the BRZ and told myself to never do that again. it wasn't that bad since I bought the MR2 for 3k, but I definitely wouldn't do it again on a more expensive car like the twins (engine swap at least... I have quite a bit into mods though lol...)


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