basically yes... Your IS for year was Toyota all over the world only in the US was it Lexus... LFA is a Lexus with Lexus is Toyota... and for the 4 Runner if you want to pay extra for all the luxury stuff.. then go for it.. as for the Scion Dealerships no they are not.. but very very few are.. but they are still linked to some Toyota dealership..

You can blame the Media. Lol

As for that shirt... Iono.. Goes both ways. Doesn't help the spelling isn't correct either. Haha

Are you sure that IS250/350 are Toyota in the other parts of the world? Lexus is established in Japan in 2006, how comes IS 250 sell in Japan or other markets as Toyota? It's like saying Maybach is Mercedes Benz, Rolls Royce is BMW. It's also like saying that Subaru is Toyota, since Toyota owns 15% of Fuji industry. Basically yes, not it's not the way it is.

not the IS250 or 350 .. I was talking about the Toyota Altezza... be for a long time Lexus was just a US brand.. Kind of like Scion is just US/ North America Brand right now.. while its cars are sold around the world under the Toyota emblem .. At the end of the day.. It is just en Emblem the cars are still built by Toyota.. or are they not ??... (and yes their are exceptions to that.. but the majority of the cars line up is )

The spelling is meant to be like that for a reason... kind of like "Iono" ..

Yes Altezza was originally Toyota, but it's not the case for present time because there is no such a thing as Altezza is IS series. Scion is built by Toyota because its cars share Toyota badge in the other part of the world.

The 05-06 tC didn't, the 07+ tC did. The 2011 tC does not because of the new 6spd trans hasn't had one developed....Yet





I want that shirt minus the face

So are you saying that Lexus is not Toyota Brand any more? and still does not share parts with other Toyota cars ? or even Scion ? ..

i seem to have forgoten... what company made the concept again?

Now you're lost. Baybach and Roller share technologies, probably parts with MB and BMW, respectively. Does that matter make Maybach MB, and Roller BMW? No. What about Buggati Veyron and Volkswagen Jetta? You got the point yet?

Understood, but "iono" on a forum is different than "doosh" on a shirt. ;p For one--I'm not wearing "iono" around. Haha.

I'm pulling your string. :P

I would so rock a T-Shirt .. with I O NO on it... just to see the looks on peoples faces when they are trying to read it.. .. lol ..

but I have a lot of shirts like that.. I'm a strange person my friends tell me..

I'm not lost .. With me its not what the car companies do.. It with the people that drive cars... People like to make this image of what a car is.. but when you strip away logos, emblems, labels, sheet metal and so on.. your left with just parts that are built by one company and shared with different brands with in that company.. To me when it comes to Toyota .. it is not Lexus Scion Toyota. it is just Toyota .. since they are the Motor Company ..

You're still lost. You don't determine what brand it is by little parts, but the engineering. Buggati Veyron has quad turbo from Volkswagen, does that make it a Volkswagen? No. Because of the awesome engineering in Veyron make it's a Buggati, not a Volkswagen. Same goes to Lexus IS, GS, and LS. And I forgot to mention, 4 Runner and GX460 are not the same car with different features. You can test drive both of them if you don't believe me.

Oh and even if FT86 is a Scion, it still shares the same engineering as Toyota, why do I have a lot of concern? Because it's a person's perspective, and preference. It's simple as that.

i was wondering why you mention the 4 Runner and GX460, haha. they're completely different. also, someone should just try to get a GX460 with a rear locker, haha. good luck! :)

i agree with Dark, for the most part. what i'm hoping for is that there's a Toyota version, a Scion version (if they must) and a Subaru version.

Hey guys, I was one of those people who never really every wanted to own a scion because of the dumbed down quality of pretty much everything. But we should all wait until the car is revealed before making any more negative comments about scion. They state "new dimension" so maybe they attempting to change the way we view them as a company.

In a nutshell, let's give them another chance to redeem themselves with the "FR-S"! Is that too much to ask? 4 days...just 4 more days!

I said this before. I want the first concept as Toyota. Scion can take the second concept. Subaru version should be a bit different mechanically, but boost and what not should be ideal for STi moniker.

Toyota, please listen to this man. It's a win-win-win. Please.

^ I can live with that. LOL :>:drinking:

There's a smilie for that.

:suicide:

I just watch that episode today .. lol ..

I'll probably end up getting the car as a Scion.

But I'm hoping to be one of the people to change the image of Scion. Granted, my efforts will be futile if Scion continues to market horribly, but at least anyone that knows me will understand with respect how I treat my vehicles regardless of brand.

I might get an StI

I will respect you sir.... Oh well, it's time to go to Subaru now... later Scion dude. :bellyroll::bellyroll:

Don't worry guys...

be patient....and the NSX will come back soon ..

YES...NSX is back again after endless "scraping of the project"

not everyone can afford that beautiful machine :cry:

Finally, a reason to actually use my swiss bank account again.

I had a 94' flip up lights NSX....
I thought the steering wheel was Ugly lol, and the seats are too.

S2000 i feel is the greatest car ever made by Honda...even better than NSX.
I always wondered what would of happened if they made a TYPE R S2000.

Another car I'm looking out for is the new "rx-7"...but knowing Mazda they're still not progressed enough to solve the "rotary engine issue" that most people are displeased with.

Soon the GTR may come out with R36....which hopefully will be MUCH lighter.

yo, i just got an inside tip that the subie version is a japan only exclusive:scared0016:

LOL!!! if thats true, ppl are gonna be PIISSEEDDD :suicide:
...but i dont trust ur "source", so i doubt it :thumbsup:

Prove me or it never happens.

my source:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

Ahhhh Legit... (Sarcasm)

LOL

I stopped reading once the convo go off into the argument (on your side dragon) and come here to see the admin warning. too funny

I agree with Mk1 Toyota, Mk2 Scion and subie version

MK1 has a me sold on looks alone

If this does get released as a Scion here in NA I'll have to go check it out in person or buy a use one cause I don't wanna support their marketing!!! XD

Ah... Thought my comment would be legit, but guess not. LOL

Hm... might be good, BUT I wouldn't say cost efficient, cuz of chassis design is different, so they gotta make two separate parts for it.

yeah thats true. the MK1 is pretty much history. i dont mind tho, the MK2 looks like a demon from hell:evil:

I'm gonna make mine look like a pink sexy beast. :wub: JDM~ With a flare. haha

White chasis. Pink/red/purplish rims. Custom added design (Sakura blossom) on the back rear area. Thingy.

Aww yea. Lol