Originally Posted by PuslarBrrrz (Post 3186650)

I think someone on the forum has gotten a CANBUS emulator to work for most functions but not fully yet on a 2AR turbo swap.

Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 3186643)

Isn't anyone trying to get the CAN adapter to work?

Might be about to get the Nemesis computer to work too. I don't see why not

Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 3186652)

Weren't we talking about the K24 swap though?

Originally Posted by PuslarBrrrz (Post 3186656)

Simply an example of integration that can be applied..

Originally Posted by PuslarBrrrz (Post 3186641)

It seems that for a street car this swap isn't great value for money as a Motec and harness are needed. Now for a track car you could probably get away with a Hondata ecu since you wouldn't care about the interior functioning and save a few bucks.

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3186722)

I don't think it is advertising itself as great value at all levels of power.



Anyone who wants more than 350 whp w/ typical torque (torque is what matters) for the street needs to build the motor and build the transmission, or replace the transmission somewhat often, or swap a transmission. If someone wants to heavily track the car then they will probably need to build the engine and transmission at much less power levels. A K24/S2000 transmission swap will probably prove to be cheaper in the long run for track or street at those power levels, so I wouldn't exclude this swap for the street, especially if functionality is important.



If someone just wanted a bare bones track car then I could see going a different route than Motec if ABS, traction control, stability control, heater, etc all weren't needed. In that case, the Motec would be overkill, while still offering some tuning advantages.

Originally Posted by Ashikabi (Post 3186737)

For a track car you don't really"need" a turn key swap kit. Mounts and maybe a header. Everything else can be a mix of stock (Honda or subi) or off the shelf aftermarket stuff. The more stock functionality you want, the more complexity and expense is added

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3186120)

Used engine .................................................. .. $1000
Used transmission .............................................. $750
Pure Auto's Motec with harness .......................... $6000
Pure Auto's engine and transmission mounts ......... $450
Pure Auto's headers........................................... $1700
Ballade Sports transmission adapter ..................... $300
Ballade K24 to S2000 FW .................................... $600
S2000 clutch kit ................................................. $750
Driveshaft Shop (aluminum) ................................ $500
Custom Motec tune ............................................. $500
Shifter relocation kit ........................................... $500
Misc bolts, intake, fluids, etc ............................... $1000

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Total .................................................. ........... $14,000



Obviously these numbers are estimates based on current prices and really don't include taxes/shipping/condition/etc. I would think $12.5-15k is reasonable after sale of the stock parts. If someone has their stock motor and trans in good condition then maybe they could get $2500 for those. I could be way off. I just figured someone should start something of a list.

Originally Posted by Beta (Post 3186897)

I have to think that there will be an alternative to Motec but I'm assuming that most of these swaps aren't gonna be for the daily which means that the accessories really aren't needed anyway.

Originally Posted by spitfire481 (Post 3187100)

There are a ton of options if you are going full racecar as far as wiring and ecu go. Not much of a point to make a bare bones kit since almost anyone can do that themselves and wouldn't really need a "kit". We will only make a harness and ecu package that retains all of the normal car functions, since that's not a simple diy task.

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 (Post 3187134)

Maybe you have said it already, what other products do you forsee yourselves producing down the line, or selling, or advising:

-Mounts are made
-Headers are made
-Wiring/Motec still in progress
-What about shifter fitment? Will it line up, and if not, will you be making a kit?
-What about a custom driveshaft? Would you guys partner to get one in stock or provide specs for others to source one?
-What other miscellaneous parts are needed or might be linked or produced?