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Originally Posted by arxm
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I cant find the thread/threads but i recall when i initially boosted my 1st gen i was looking into oils and came across quite a few very detailed posts by teams that raced the twins, I recall seeing oil temps vs pressures over a time plot showing 0w-20 retaining the least heat over time which is why it was recommended over a heavier weight oil which retained more heat, all of the oils got too hot seeing pressure drops which is why the general consensus was 0w-20 with an oil cooler.
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I've been in all of these oil temperature/pressure conversations, and there's never been any "general consensus" that 0w20 with an oil cooler is the way to go. Oil cooler is a waste of time, waste of money, and greatly increases likelihood of oil leaks. At stockish power levels, oil temps are well under control and no oil cooler is needed. I would recommend good 30-weight synth for track usage tho...
Question: what do you think is "too hot" for decent synthetic oil?
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Even on the street after doing some hard a** driving at only 300ish wheel I would see my oil pressure bounce around 3-6 psi at idle and oil coming in around 260f and up.
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So at idle you were seeing 3-6 psi, at 260F oil temp? OK but I've never heard anyone report oil pressures that low at idle for any oil at any oil temp. I mean if you have water for oil, maybe?
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Ive never seen below spec around 11-14ish at idle with the cooler and temps stay around 200f tops, cheap insurance if you ask me especially if you drive the car hard
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Adding failure points for no reason is not "cheap insurance". Engines have been lost, *cars* have been lost due to leaking and failing aftermarket oil cooler plumbing.
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and more or less a no brainer if boosted especially turbo. Heat kills the oil, poor oiling kills the engine as numerous people have come to find out with these cars :bellyroll:
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Oil analysis has shown that 275F and much higher temps doesn't do anything to the oil at all. Poor oiling delivery does kill engines though, and if you research engine failures with these cars you will find that having an oil cooler or not isn't a factor at all.
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