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ryude 01-09-2012 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 109862)
So you went with lower lumen output HIDs? Proper retrofit or just rebased/PnP stuff? If that's the case I can definately understand how you don't notice a difference with HIDs.
Vehicles equipped with HID headlamps from the factory have a headlamp lens cleaning systems and automatic beam levelling control. This reduces glare which can hurt other driver's ability to see. This is why aftermarket HID kits are not the same as factory xenon's.

Dave-ROR 01-09-2012 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tranzformer (Post 109869)
A proper factory installed HID kit > any aftermarket retro fit I have experienced using.
You can do a retrofit correctly, you just need to use actual HID projectors and make sure it's installed correctly. Still not as good as a stock S2000's (which are amazing HID projectors in a proper housing) but they will be much better than a PNP kit.

Kids Heart 01-09-2012 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24 (Post 109864)
The grey one is the TRU 140S. Front wheel drive dressed up eclipse. Try again

tranzformer 01-09-2012 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by lfawishes (Post 109863)
I'm going to be incredibly UPSET if Scion choses to Cover and show the Formula D Scion at DAS. Wrong show for it, and really shitty way to take advantage of the hype of the car and not deliver for us.

It better be a second model, I'm not playing the oh yea we aren't going to roll out performance models for 2 years, go ahead and do that and I'll go ahead and move onto a different car.

The reality is subaru wants to build cheaper cars and charge more money for them, so we can't count on them either.


What asshole designs a strictly performance car and waits to deliver an actual performance model.

Really? FRS and BRZ seem like a good performance car to me. No STI or TRD is guaranteed to come to us yet.

ryun84 01-09-2012 01:20 PM
And let's get even more specific:

OEM Projector HID systems > OEM non-projector HID systems or Retrofitted Projector HID systems >>>>> Aftermarket PnP HID kits

poormans_LFA 01-09-2012 01:21 PM
HUD units are pretty expensive to replace, yeh??

Snoopyalien24 01-09-2012 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Kids Heart (Post 109879)
The grey one is the TRU 140S. Front wheel drive dressed up eclipse. Try again
Welllll in thaaat case






Forget it. :bonk:

Dave-ROR 01-09-2012 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ryude (Post 109874)
Vehicles equipped with HID headlamps from the factory have a headlamp lens cleaning systems and automatic beam levelling control. This reduces glare which can hurt other driver's ability to see. This is why aftermarket HID kits are not the same as factory xenon's.
Uhmm.. in Germany that's true. It's not true in the US. S2000s didn't have either. BiXenon cars have leveling of course.

The difference is primary in the projector and housing, not the ancillary systems.

tranzformer 01-09-2012 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 109877)
You can do a retrofit correctly, you just need to use actual HID projectors and make sure it's installed correctly. Still not as good as a stock S2000's (which are amazing HID projectors in a proper housing) but they will be much better than a PNP kit.
Which is why I was saying nothing I have experienced. Factory will always be superior to me than aftermarket.

ryude 01-09-2012 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 109884)
Uhmm.. in Germany that's true. It's not true in the US. S2000s didn't have either. BiXenon cars have leveling of course.

The difference is primary in the projector and housing, not the ancillary systems.
True, in the US it is not required. Probably why so many people complain about HID's hurting their eyes. Even factory equipped HID's in the US aren't the greatest.

Dave-ROR 01-09-2012 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ryun84 (Post 109881)
And let's get even more specific:

OEM Projector HID systems > OEM non-projector HID systems or Retrofitted Projector HID systems >>>>> Aftermarket PnP HID kits

I'd say OEM Projector HID > Proper Retrofit Projector HID > OEM Reflector HID systems > PNP HID Kits in Projectors > Projector Halogens > PNP HID kits in Reflectors > PNP HID kits with any tinted bulbs (like 6000k bulbs or the laughable 12k bulbs). :)

Syldrin 01-09-2012 01:25 PM
So i've been thinking the car under the tarp is going to be Ken's car. i mean it is a scion racing booth after all.

iff2mastamatt 01-09-2012 01:25 PM
Show me the LEDs!

Dave-ROR 01-09-2012 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Syldrin (Post 109890)
So i've been thinking the car under the tarp is going to be Ken's car. i mean it is a scion racing booth after all.
That is the most likely case.


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