Toe Arm: Is it a Must ? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Figo · 10-01-2013, 05:15 PM

Now I got a KW V3 and a Cusco LCA.

The alignment shop told me that I would need rear toe arms. The stock cam bolts to adjust the toe is not enough. And it would even be DANGEROUS without a toe arm.

I thought that a little bit toe in on the rear is ok right? got confused.
Can the toe be correct to 0 on the rear without those arms?

I am going to drop about 1''-1.2'', -2 f and -1.5 r camber.

empower-auto · 10-01-2013, 05:19 PM

Running similar camber to your goals I was unable to zero out my toe. I actually was stuck with improper thrust angle. Toe out on one side, toe in on the other ...

Moral: buy toe arms

wallace03 · 10-01-2013, 06:49 PM

Your signature is contradicting your topic yo.

BirdTRD · 10-01-2013, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wallace03

Your signature is contradicting your topic yo.

My guess is he's a Coach, a Manager or a Politician.

CounterSpace Garage · 10-01-2013, 08:06 PM

The CSG BRZ does not have any toe arms. Zero toe all around no problem...

garfull · 10-01-2013, 08:10 PM

I was able to get -1/16 toe per side with -1.2 degree camber with LCA so -1.5 should be possible. The more neg camber you will get more toe adjustment for the rear.

frslee · 10-01-2013, 08:11 PM

I'd rather lose by a mile because I built my own car,
than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
Your car is your story, so don't let someone else write the book.

DIY...

Zach3794 · 10-01-2013, 08:23 PM

I'm on H&R super sports (about 1.5" in the rear), with about 2* neg camber on racerx lower control arms, and stock toe arms. My alignment shop was able to get toe to 0 on both ends without any issue.

mfbmike · 10-01-2013, 08:25 PM

I've got a toe kit from SPC performance but that requires pushing in their bushing into the existing toe arm as far I can tell.

Figo · 10-01-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wallace03

Your signature is contradicting your topic yo.

lol kinda busy cuz just graduatin from college and start my new job。 i actually changed lowering springs on my old car by myself。

Figo · 10-01-2013, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by frslee

I'd rather lose by a mile because I built my own car,
than win by an inch because someone else built it for me.
Your car is your story, so don't let someone else write the book.

DIY...

i might do it myself now cuz the labor fee is too much。 changed lowerin springs on my old car by myself before。 now just kinda too busy these days

wallace03 · 10-01-2013, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Figo

lol kinda busy cuz just graduatin from college and start my new job。 i actually changed lowering springs on my old car by myself。

I was just messing

and congratz

Figo · 10-01-2013, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by wallace03

I was just messing

and congratz

lol thanks。the bolts on my old car was rust。I used WD40 and take me half a day to take them off。Building a car during college years is a good memory actually。

mfbmike · 10-01-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Figo

i knew that。those r not arms actually

Correct.

Just saying there are alternatives. I might not even end up using them if you're at all interested in them.

10-01-2013, 05:15 PM	#1
Figo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: Vortech Supercharged FR-S Location: Central Jersey Posts: 1,515 Thanks: 597 Thanked 934 Times in 428 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Toe Arm: Is it a Must ? Now I got a KW V3 and a Cusco LCA. The alignment shop told me that I would need rear toe arms. The stock cam bolts to adjust the toe is not enough. And it would even be DANGEROUS without a toe arm. I thought that a little bit toe in on the rear is ok right? got confused. Can the toe be correct to 0 on the rear without those arms? I am going to drop about 1''-1.2'', -2 f and -1.5 r camber. __________________ I'd rather lose by a mile because I built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me. Your car is your story, so don't let someone else write the book. ( White Tiger ) - FiGo's 車誌. Last edited by Figo; 01-07-2014 at 01:53 PM.

10-01-2013, 05:19 PM	#2
empower-auto Kouki-Monster Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Saskatoon, SK Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 11 Thanked 562 Times in 261 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Running similar camber to your goals I was unable to zero out my toe. I actually was stuck with improper thrust angle. Toe out on one side, toe in on the other ... Moral: buy toe arms __________________ Rich Anderson EMPOWER AUTO

10-01-2013, 06:49 PM	#3
wallace03 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: WRB BRZ Location: Houston Posts: 637 Thanks: 43 Thanked 143 Times in 95 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Your signature is contradicting your topic yo. __________________

10-01-2013, 08:06 PM	#5
CounterSpace Garage Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: Subaru BRZ / Toyota 86 Experts Location: Santa Fe Springs, CA Posts: 1,028 Thanks: 359 Thanked 916 Times in 399 Posts Mentioned: 154 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	The CSG BRZ does not have any toe arms. Zero toe all around no problem...

10-01-2013, 08:10 PM	#6
garfull Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: FRS(sold), AP2, R35, FJC, ED9 Location: 510 Posts: 527 Thanks: 370 Thanked 192 Times in 128 Posts Mentioned: 42 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I was able to get -1/16 toe per side with -1.2 degree camber with LCA so -1.5 should be possible. The more neg camber you will get more toe adjustment for the rear.

10-01-2013, 08:11 PM	#7
frslee Just drive it Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 13' FR-S Location: Maryland Posts: 1,122 Thanks: 97 Thanked 321 Times in 218 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	I'd rather lose by a mile because I built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me. Your car is your story, so don't let someone else write the book. DIY...

10-01-2013, 08:23 PM	#8
Zach3794 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S, Raven, Manual Location: Vista, CA Posts: 396 Thanks: 81 Thanked 143 Times in 101 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm on H&R super sports (about 1.5" in the rear), with about 2* neg camber on racerx lower control arms, and stock toe arms. My alignment shop was able to get toe to 0 on both ends without any issue.

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