does the scion pan say subaroo?

[gmookher]

curious if you fr-s folks have a different pan or does yours say Subaru on it?

[JoeBoxer]

Mine has subaru everywhere, your new fender vents say subaru too!

[mattles]

pretty sure that 3/4th of the parts on my Scion FRS are stamped or stickered or otherwise labelled as Subaru. People that dont know about the whole Subaru/Toyota project always do a triple take and I lol.

[gmookher]

so its really a subaru thru and thru, minus a few badges from scion... I dont see a since toyota part on mine.

[mattles]

^^ if you look real close, there is a toyota sticker on the diff case and MAYBE some form of toyota branding on the transmission/driveshalf

[Snozzberries]

Also, injectors are Toyota, albeit probably not labeled.

or not

[gmookher]

Originally Posted by Snozzberries

Also, injectors are Toyota, albeit probably not labeled.

you mean Nippon Denso?

[CBR600RR]

the FR-S says subaru everywhere. in the trunk, under the hood, on the brakes etc...

the car is a subaru that toyota paid for

[Synack]

virtually almost every part that says subaru will say subaru on both vehicles, and the same with Toyota. except for specific visual branding like badges, emblems, wheel caps, etc.

[Beyer Subaru]

TPMS sensors are Toyota.

[kramerica_industries]

People need to remember that the twins are manufactured at a Subaru plant, so it only makes sense for Subaru to stamp their name on as many components as they can. But stamps on sheet metal don't change the fact that the project was initiated by Toyota, and in fact it took 6 months of negotiations for Subaru to be willing to co-develop a dedicated RWD platform with Toyota. I think the end product truly reflects a mindful, detailed consideration of what makes a great driver's car. I give more credit to Toyota for taking the initiative with the project, the design, advanced injection technology, and transmission.
But to give one company all the credit would, IMO, simply be misguided.

I find the build quality to be higher than Subaru typically is in my experience, and the new boxer engine is a real gem in my book. I know people talk shit about only having 200 hp, but when the electronic nannies are fully off - the smell of burning rubber and the thrill graceful cornering slides throws all that hp talk right out the window.

Last weekend I went up to Miller Park in Milwaukee to see a buddy and drive a Ferrari F430 (thanks to Gotham Dream Cars offer on Living Social). Just three laps. Just $99. Just 3 straightaways hitting the 8250 redline in 2nd gear @ 85 mph. But I was speechless afterward - a physical and mental high.

When we were done we took my FR-S to an empty lot at Miller Park, turned off the nannies, and slid all over that lot. It was the first time I've had the chance to safely fool around without ANY of the nannies, and my love of this car grew tremendously as a result. It's so much damn fun. I can't wait to autocross it next summer with better wheels and tires.

Anyway, a bit off topic but had to share!

[Turbowned]

Originally Posted by kramerica_industries

People need to remember that the twins are manufacture at a Subaru plant, so it only makes sense for Subaru to stamp their name on as many components as they can. But stamps on sheet metal don't change the fact that the project was initiated by Toyota, and in fact it took 6 months of negotiations for Subaru to be willing to co-develop a dedicated RWD platform with Toyota. I think the end product truly reflects a mindful, detailed consideration of what makes a great driver's car. I give more credit to Toyota for taking the initiative with the project, the design, advanced injection technology, and transmission.
But to give one company all the credit would, IMO, simply be misguided.

Indeed it would, especially considering the "Team 86" design team consisted of engineers/designers from all departments of both Toyota and Subaru:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...hlight=team+86

"By the time full development started, they were very cohesive with everyone, and the team worked in unison to the end to follow the goals and guidelines set in the initial concept focus.
These are the men and women who are called the TEAM 86, chosen to not be either Toyota or Subaru, but a singular entity who were simply at the task of using resources available in either, and crating something closest fitting to the goal of making the FT86 siblings."

Key developers on the "TEAM 86" project:
T. Tada - chief engineer Toyota
F. Ito - Product Planning 86 Project Subaru
A. Takada - Product Planning/Marketing Division, Toyota
T. Furukawa - Exterior Design, Toyota Design Group
K. Kido - Exterior Design/Toyota Creative Studio
T. Noda - Body/Product Management - Subaru
M.Toyama - Group Manager, Design Toyota
Y. Hayashi - Interior Design, Toyota Design Group
H. Kishi - Engine Management Systems R&D 86 Project Subaru
T. Okamoto - New Engine Development - Toyota Advanced Engine Design
M. Otani - Engine Development Toyota
K. Watanabe - Engine Development - Toyota
K. Nakamura - Product Management - Engine Group Toyota
T. Ishikawa - Manual Transmission Development Aisin AI
T. Kaino - Manual Transmission Development
H. Tomomatsu - 6 sp Automatic Development, Toyota
M. Takagi - Advanced Testing Driver - Toyota
Y. Sasaki - Chassis Development
A. Osaka - Chief Driving Test Engineer
H. Kishi - Aftermarket Product Planning Division, Sport Vehicle Management
K. Okino - Aftermarket Product Division, Toyota


Anyone who tries to give more credit to one side vs. the other is sorely misguided indeed.

[SuperDave]

Originally Posted by gmookher

so its really a subaru thru and thru, minus a few badges from scion... I dont see a since toyota part on mine.

so since apple outsources their products to be made in china, and it's stamped made in china...it's not a apple product right? i mean it's just the label on the outside that says it's apple, but "underneath the hood" it's a chinese product...according to your logic.

get over it, it's a collaboration between the two companies, toyota outsourced the creation of the new 86 to subaru, thus subaru parts.

[SuperDave]

Originally Posted by gmookher

so its really a subaru thru and thru, minus a few badges from scion... I dont see a since toyota part on mine.

i guess you didn't look under the hood to see TOYOTA D4S on the engine.