What happened to Cosworth support? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

dtbdan · 10-22-2018, 04:47 PM

I remember back in 2012/13 Cosworth was one of the first major aftermarket brands to really open a development program on the 86 platform, does anyone know why by about 2015 they seemed to not just stop all R&D but production of parts as well?

KR-S · 10-23-2018, 12:35 AM

From what I gathered, it was simply too expensive for what it was compared to alternatives and had a questionable reputation with other platforms at best (despite the name).

Not many people went Cosworth for these reasons.

weederr33 · 10-23-2018, 01:11 AM

They stopped their Stage 1 offerings due to shipping costs as well as shotty quality from Nameless Performance (who made their exhaust). I believe Matt@Cosworth pointed out that others did exhausts good enough.

As for their Stage 2 supercharger, I believe it was a combination of low sells, and that Cosworth wanted to begin focusing on electronics and other formula racing stuff again. Though I don't know entirely why they got out. Either way, despite other issues with other platforms, my experience with them has been wonderful.

Cal3000 · 10-23-2018, 02:01 AM

The question should be, what happened to Accelerated Performance? They released a vid with their turbo kit when the car first came out setting a 11.3 in the 1/4 mile, then never released the kit.

Alltezza · 10-23-2018, 02:28 AM

Their prices were EXPENSIVE if i remember it was almost 7K or 8K!!!, while Edelbrock was a lot cheaper and had a warranty and they sometimes had rebates.

But it also offered very similar if not the same performance since theyre both roots SC, although I'm sure that the Cosworth is using a smaller TVS one while Edelbrock's TVS 1320 is a little bigger.

All while costing a lot less than Cosworth and also being high quality.

So it's probably low sales, you hear everyone and see people who are SC'd run Edelbrock and JRSC.

Tcoat · 10-23-2018, 02:50 AM

They made a full announcement on here someplace. They were really just moving on to other projects. They are a business no need to concentrate on where the sales are.

eMCee · 12-12-2018, 06:50 PM

Talking about other projects.
11k revving V12 anyone?

Dave-ROR · 12-12-2018, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cal3000

The question should be, what happened to Accelerated Performance? They released a vid with their turbo kit when the car first came out setting a 11.3 in the 1/4 mile, then never released the kit.

Accelerated released their kit. I've seen 2 installed on their customer cars while rolling through Toledo, OH. Not sure if they kept making them, I haven't stopped by there or talked to those guys since.. 2014?

nikitopo · 12-12-2018, 07:40 PM

I think there are still some SC kits available and with a better price. They can sell directly now and they can be more competitive. If there is still an interest, maybe they can produce a new batch of kits.

10-22-2018, 04:47 PM	#1
dtbdan Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Drives: 2018 50th Anniversary BRZ PP Location: US Posts: 17 Thanks: 39 Thanked 20 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	What happened to Cosworth support? I remember back in 2012/13 Cosworth was one of the first major aftermarket brands to really open a development program on the 86 platform, does anyone know why by about 2015 they seemed to not just stop all R&D but production of parts as well?

10-23-2018, 01:11 AM	#3
weederr33 Airborne at your service Join Date: Sep 2014 Drives: '17 BRZ Series.Yellow Location: El Paso, Texas Posts: 6,420 Thanks: 4,579 Thanked 5,706 Times in 2,992 Posts Mentioned: 33 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	They stopped their Stage 1 offerings due to shipping costs as well as shotty quality from Nameless Performance (who made their exhaust). I believe Matt@Cosworth pointed out that others did exhausts good enough. As for their Stage 2 supercharger, I believe it was a combination of low sells, and that Cosworth wanted to begin focusing on electronics and other formula racing stuff again. Though I don't know entirely why they got out. Either way, despite other issues with other platforms, my experience with them has been wonderful. __________________ Series.Yellowbird - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122135 MS, CSCS, TSAC-F, CPT

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12-12-2018, 07:40 PM	#9
nikitopo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: '15 BRZ RA Location: Greece Posts: 3,787 Thanks: 2,417 Thanked 1,947 Times in 1,263 Posts Mentioned: 29 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	About Cosworth ... I think there are still some SC kits available and with a better price. They can sell directly now and they can be more competitive. If there is still an interest, maybe they can produce a new batch of kits.

10-23-2018, 12:35 AM	#2
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10-23-2018, 02:28 AM	#5
Alltezza Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: WRB Limited BRZ Location: Tennessee Posts: 696 Thanks: 450 Thanked 276 Times in 177 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Their prices were EXPENSIVE if i remember it was almost 7K or 8K!!!, while Edelbrock was a lot cheaper and had a warranty and they sometimes had rebates. But it also offered very similar if not the same performance since theyre both roots SC, although I'm sure that the Cosworth is using a smaller TVS one while Edelbrock's TVS 1320 is a little bigger. All while costing a lot less than Cosworth and also being high quality. So it's probably low sales, you hear everyone and see people who are SC'd run Edelbrock and JRSC.

12-12-2018, 06:50 PM	#7
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