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Pre-2017 or 2017+?
Hi. I am tempted to pick up a BRZ in some form. The biggest difference is whether it's the 2017+ or the pre-refresh.
Points for the refresh-- 1. Nicer looking steering wheel. It actually looks very nice. 2. Improved engine bits 3. New car smells Points for the pre-refresh 1. Available used at fantastic prices 2. More money for mods 3. Can go ahead with UEL header and tune pretty soon I think if I had to keep it stock, I would go with the 2017+, but the suspension revisions become moot as I plan on getting some mild lowering springs. Seems some people prefer the 4.1 final ratio. If you've driven both cars, which would you rather own? |
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I prefer the 2017 BRZ I have now over the 2015 BRZ I had previously. I got the performance package on this one and having the big brake kit is great for tracking. I can't speak much to the suspension as I'm not as in tune with the car as a lot of guys with more experience, and I never drove them back to back. I also like the general aesthetic on the 2017 more. Spoiler, front bumper, tail lights, all of it is better in my opinion.
I would say though for the price difference going with a used twin is much better bang for your buck. The differences between the original and refresh are pretty minor. |
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Depends on the intended use. The shorter FD stock will feel as fast or maybe fast then a zenki with header and tune. Haven't driven a stg 2 kouki yet to say how that feels but I imagine it'd be pretty nice.
I like the look of the kouki BRZ better as well, but that's personal preference.
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I'd go :
1. New '19 BRZ if you can afford it (tranny / color you want) , limited or PP would be best. 2. get a '18 BRZ (limited or PP) , end of year deal, between now and Jan. , some kind of a good discount off new, $700-1000 3. a '17 BRZ limited or PP , if it's clean (under 15k miles), 1 owner, $20-22k 4. a '15-'16 , either BRZ Limited or FR-S, tranny and color you want, cleanest you can find, 1-owner (not sure on price here). **#2 sounds like the ticket, good likelihood you can score something here , #3 and #4 are a roll of the dice.
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I prefer my (stock) '17 BRZ to my previous UEL Stage 2 '13 FR-S. The 4.3 FD makes the car feel faster.
I would try and get a '17+ if possible, then you also wouldn't have to worry about a potential TOB issue (which almost all my pre-17 friends have been dealing with). I had to replace mine @ 60k and the clutch disk still had a ton of life.
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I think you should hold out for the factory turbo.
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I have had both a 2013 FRS and now a 2017 BRZ. I much prefer my BRZ over the FRS for a number of reasons (looks, shorter gearing, much better interior). Both of them were modified quite a bit and raced a ton (mostly autocross, some track). I personally think the 2017+ is a better car overall, not to say that the pre-2017 cars are bad, they are also great. Probably going to come down to how much $$ you want to spend...Lots of videos on both cars in my sig' if it helps.
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I think it really just ends up like this:
All years of the FT86 offers top notch driver involvement and fun. None of the years seem to be better or worse than this. Pre-17 cars are a bit rough around the edges. 17+ cars tend to be a bit more refined. And that's about it lol. |
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