My Goals with this Forum!!! - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

ORGANIZED-CHAOS · 07-27-2016, 01:04 PM

Hello everyone, I'm new to this forum and I have to say that this site is by far the best resource tool I've come across in the whole entire net. After a weeks worth of reading endless topics I feel more than confident enough to do almost anything to my car (2014 FRS Monogram Edition). But my main goal is to stay competitive (performance wise) with the new 2017 Camaro SS. So the question I have is how many WHP do I need to just keep up with one. I don't want to blow it out the water, I just want a tight race.

I know they are 455HP at the crank, however I believe they are 1000 more pounds than our cars. I know I will be going turbo for my choice of force induction, however I would like a reasonable number to achieve my goal.

Once again I appreciate this site and it's endless knowledge it provides. I look forward in being a part of the community. Thanks.

Tcoat · 07-27-2016, 01:06 PM

The only way to really compete with a Camaro SS is:

RichardsFRS · 07-27-2016, 01:06 PM

HAHAHAHA

Dump about 25k into your car and you may keep up with one all around

new2subaru · 07-27-2016, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ORGANIZED-CHAOS

Hello everyone, I'm new to this forum and I have to say that this site is by far the best resource tool I've come across in the whole entire net. After a weeks worth of reading endless topics I feel more than confident enough to do almost anything to my car (2014 FRS Monogram Edition). But my main goal is to stay competitive (performance wise) with the new 2017 Camaro SS. So the question I have is how many WHP do I need to just keep up with one. I don't want to blow it out the water, I just want a tight race.

I know they are 455HP at the crank, however I believe they are 1000 more pounds than our cars. I know I will be going turbo for my choice of force induction, however I would like a reasonable number to achieve my goal.

Once again I appreciate this site and it's endless knowledge it provides. I look forward in being a part of the community. Thanks.

I've been on here a year and have tinted my windows and changed out some silver interior bits. (Slow learner)

I'd suggest reading for several more months.

kch · 07-27-2016, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ORGANIZED-CHAOS

But my main goal is to stay competitive (performance wise) with the new 2017 Camaro SS.

In a straight line? You bought the wrong car. On the track? You need tires, brake pads, brake fluid, and seat time. You'll be passing camaros almost immediately.

Toyarzee · 07-27-2016, 01:21 PM

I've already lapped a 2016 Camaro SS at the tracks last month with no FI. If you mean to street race from one red light to another or, even more recklessly speaking, pull on one at speed on the freeway, you bought the wrong car and should probably just trade in for a 2017 Camaro lol.

Edit: damn you guys responded quickly, beat me to every punch while on my phone...

Edit 2: stick to Civic crushing haha

sdemo · 07-27-2016, 01:23 PM

Stickers. Buy all the stickers.

FX86 · 07-27-2016, 01:25 PM

what did the camaro ss ever do to you? lol ....way too specific of a car in this case

Summerwolf · 07-27-2016, 01:26 PM

You're going to need a pretty good wallet. The guys saying they're passing Camaros must be on extremely tight courses with no straights at all. The sixth gen Camaro can handle, and they are extremely quick in a straight line.

When people start talking about power to weight they never seem to account for overall power and just speak in peak numbers. The Camaro has a broad torque curve, and horsepower that climbs rapidly. That is nearly impossible to match with the FA20 without some serious modifications.

This car and forum has many options for upgrades and a wide variety of experience on tap. If you plan on seriously making power with the car, you will need a LOT of supporting modifications, and overall the Camaro would have been a cheaper buy.

Toyarzee · 07-27-2016, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf

The guys saying they're passing Camaros must be on extremely tight courses with no straights at all. The sixth gen Camaro can handle, and they are extremely quick in a straight line.

That... plus he was a shit driver lol. Him and a buddy with a 2016 Viper were creating all sorts of traffic buildup

Summerwolf · 07-27-2016, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Toyarzee

That... plus he was a shit driver lol. Him and a buddy with a 2016 Viper were creating all sorts of traffic buildup

You'll have that.

Tcoat · 07-27-2016, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by new2subaru

I've been on here a year and have tinted my windows and changed out some silver interior bits. (Slow learner)

I'd suggest reading for several more months.

I have read about 100 posts for every one I have made and figure I am through about 2% of the information available here!

DarkSunrise · 07-27-2016, 01:40 PM

If you're talking straight line, I agree with the above comments - it'll be cheaper just trading in for a muscle car.

But if you really want to stick with your car, ask these guys for their mod list. The second video claims the BRZ had 360 whp, but you should message them directly.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2ydSvL3RKY"]Camaro SS vs Turbo Brz - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSu3b2PSUHM"]Camaro ss 420whp vs brz turbo 360whp - YouTube[/ame]

Summerwolf · 07-27-2016, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

If you're talking straight line, I agree with the above comments - it'll be cheaper just trading in for a muscle car.

But if you really want to stick with your car, ask these guys for their mod list. The second video claims the BRZ had 360 whp, but you should message them directly.

Pretty sure we're talking about sixth gens here.....stout BRZ though, lol.

07-27-2016, 01:04 PM	#1
ORGANIZED-CHAOS Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Drives: 2014 FRS Location: Tampa, FLORIDA Posts: 11 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My Goals with this Forum!!! Hello everyone, I'm new to this forum and I have to say that this site is by far the best resource tool I've come across in the whole entire net. After a weeks worth of reading endless topics I feel more than confident enough to do almost anything to my car (2014 FRS Monogram Edition). But my main goal is to stay competitive (performance wise) with the new 2017 Camaro SS. So the question I have is how many WHP do I need to just keep up with one. I don't want to blow it out the water, I just want a tight race. I know they are 455HP at the crank, however I believe they are 1000 more pounds than our cars. I know I will be going turbo for my choice of force induction, however I would like a reasonable number to achieve my goal. Once again I appreciate this site and it's endless knowledge it provides. I look forward in being a part of the community. Thanks.

07-27-2016, 01:06 PM	#2
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RichardsFRS Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Drives: 2013 Pearl White 6MT Location: Gainesville Ga Posts: 938 Thanks: 5 Thanked 356 Times in 246 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	HAHAHAHA Dump about 25k into your car and you may keep up with one all around __________________ Back from bancation in Banopolis where I laid on the beach with a beer between my legs. I at night and ate at sun rise

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DarkSunrise Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 22 BRZ (Previously 13 FR-S) Location: USA Posts: 5,798 Thanks: 2,187 Thanked 4,243 Times in 2,221 Posts Mentioned: 48 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	If you're talking straight line, I agree with the above comments - it'll be cheaper just trading in for a muscle car. But if you really want to stick with your car, ask these guys for their mod list. The second video claims the BRZ had 360 whp, but you should message them directly. [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2ydSvL3RKY"]Camaro SS vs Turbo Brz - YouTube[/ame] [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSu3b2PSUHM"]Camaro ss 420whp vs brz turbo 360whp - YouTube[/ame] __________________ "Never run out of real estate, traction, and ideas at the same time." 2022 BRZ Build 2013 FR-S Build

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