Subaru 216A confirmed with 2.0L turbo, AWD, bigger and heavier than FT-86

[Arcangel]

Originally Posted by 86Fan

Not sure about the Subura but the FT should be around 20000.

Think I'm gonna have to got FT then.

[RWD_only]

A boosted 86 is what I want, no, demand!


To hell with a $30,000 (or more ) WRX coupe. I like Subaru, a lot and I really appreciate what they've done for rallying in the states. Hell, I rallyX and plan on buying a old legacy turbo or RX for a stage rally car, (if I can find one) but, i'm not really interested in a more expensive AWD car that is just going to see DD duties. However, I can understand why it's being produced and I hate to admit but I like the look of the Subie (magazine scan) version more.

Also, the 0216a is debuting at least a year after the toyota model and I want this car yesterday!

[DiceK]

I'm from Japan.
This magazine is very very famous for fabricated article in japan.
I don't believe that is really reliable.

Mr. Tada, Chief engineer of FT-86, Toyota said the team is trying to set its engine and transmission lower and much more close to the center of the car.
If Subaru is considering make an AWD turbo coupe as a brother car, it will be very difficult because there are not enough space there for the turbo engine and AWD transmission.

[White Comet]

Originally Posted by RWD_only

Also, the 0216a is debuting at least a year after the toyota model and I want this car yesterday!

Proof?

[RWD_only]

It's nothing official but I have seen it on other websites as welland it is in reference to the STi version. but from 7tune:

"Although it’s not confirmed yet, there’s a strong possibility the Subaru 086A STi Version will be shown at the 2011 Tokyo Motor Show or not long after at the 2012 Tokyo Auto Salon and will hit showrooms shortly thereafter."

Following the comments by Subaru Australia it sounds like Fuji has been at lease somewhat skeptical, or adding AWD has been a challenge so, the betting man says the Subaru version will follow the Toyota.

[Arcangel]

I would have to agree and with the AWD problems and the weight gain the subaru is looking less promising to these eyes

[Ground N Pound]

Originally Posted by Arcangel

I would have to agree and with the AWD problems and the weight gain the subaru is looking less promising to these eyes

Not to mention the higher price tag.

[mettler]

Originally Posted by RWD_only

It's nothing official but I have seen it on other websites as welland it is in reference to the STi version. but from 7tune:

"Although it’s not confirmed yet, there’s a strong possibility the Subaru 086A STi Version will be shown at the 2011 Tokyo Motor Show or not long after at the 2012 Tokyo Auto Salon and will hit showrooms shortly thereafter."

I am still having trouble with the two years away window... That is just too far away and almost too late re-enter the game. I can't imagine what the Infinity/Nissan/Hyundai autos are going to have available in two years..even Maserati is talking about an entry level coupe.

[White Comet]

Originally Posted by mettler

even Maserati is talking about an entry level coupe.

Great joke! Can't believe you didn't crack up typing it.

No, really.

[GT]

Originally Posted by White Comet

Great joke! Can't believe you didn't crack up typing it.

No, really.

lol. I am curious to see how much the subie will cost.

[mettler]

according to this low 30's:

http://www.4wheelsnews.com/preview-s...-sports-coupe/

[dante]

Originally Posted by mettler

according to this low 30's:

http://www.4wheelsnews.com/preview-s...-sports-coupe/

The biggest problem Subbie is going to have is that if they're talking about a 250hp coupe in the low 30k range, it's going to be WAY overpriced compared to the WRX. Right now the WRX has 265hp, weighs 3175lbs, has AWD and cost $25k. They absolutely can not come out with something that has less horsepower and costs $7k more. It'd be suicide.

What I could see would be a boosted RWD coupe in the $25k range. Similar price to the WRX, similar HP but RWD and lightweight instead of AWD and 4/5-door. Otherwise you'll get every reviewer and magazine in the country talking about how you'd be stupid to pay $7k more for a vehicle that's slower and infinitely less practical...

[White Comet]

Originally Posted by mettler

according to this low 30's:

http://www.4wheelsnews.com/preview-s...-sports-coupe/

This is also just rumour. We still don't even have confirmation of the Subaru version. We still don't know what drivetrain it would pack. That article is just bs-ing talking about price.

[Uvamosk]

I just want to know. If subaru made a version of the FT-86 and gave it AWD and 300HP isn't that like slitting their own throats??

I mean that's directly competing with their own brand. Why would you go buy a impreza when you get a car that's lighter more agile and has probably the same Power to Weight ratio?

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Uvamosk

I just want to know. If subaru made a version of the FT-86 and gave it AWD and 300HP isn't that like slitting their own throats??

I mean that's directly competing with their own brand. Why would you go buy a impreza when you get a car that's lighter more agile and has probably the same Power to Weight ratio?

Isn't maker's goal to make better car then previous one? Like Supra? Compare to 1st gen Supra to 4th gen Supra, there's so much difference. Heck why Ferrari still making cars? They already made Enzo. isn't Enzo good enough?