Would you guys trade Evo IX MR for BRZ?

[Mtechnik]

Originally Posted by MTTS3sgte

Got to say that I wouldn't have given up the noble m400 but that's just me.

Yeah, I can see that. Although, the Noble is one of those cars that I am very glad that I had the experience to own, but if someone asked if I would do so again, the answer would be No. My next 'super drivers street car' is a 997.2 GT3 or Cayman R. Although, my focus currently is on competitive road racing and not street cars... Now THAT is a helluva lot more fun than driving a Noble/Aventador/(place any super car name here) on the street. You truly can't do much on the street, and if you start to really push the limits, that can get dangerous really fast (no pun intended) due to the unpredicatable nature of the environment around you. In addition, you can't drive/race mirror to mirror, door to door with a Noble or whatever on the street, that's one of the many things that makes auto road racing so satisfying & competitive.


OT, BRZ vs. Evo. Yeah, I'd prob do it for something new and a change.

[Hanakuso]

Totally different cars. IMO Evos are made to go fast while the BRZ are made to be fun

[ravnos04]

hehe, nope! /thread

[Tbomb 25]

Originally Posted by DOMOAE92

Yeah it makes sense. You have a point in that the EVO/STI starts at such High HP/High Grip platform. And that in order to get the most "fun" out of it, you have to drive it like you stole everywhere, because of the FI (Forced Induction).

Yet, compared to a balanced car like the BRZ/FRS, you feel or actually wear the car when you drive it. You don't necessarily have to be driving fast, just the enjoyment of how well balanced the car is brings the fun back in driving. Basically, the limits in terms of driving is easier to achieve when you're in the BRZ/FRS, and brings a sense of happiness. It's basically driving a big ass go-kart.

So if you enjoy driving, the BRZ/FRS is the car for you. It's simple and pure to a perfect balance. I think the challenge will be "not" to over tune the engine of these cars, and still keeping the balance undistrubed.

Bingo!! at what power level will this car became more of a normal car as far as its rare to achieve driving dynamics are thrown out of the window. See 99.9% of cars dont have this luxury to begin with so more speed is usually the avenue when its comes to modding these cars. The Evo is the best in driving dynamics of the awd type but its still not like a Ft86/FSR/BRZ ,Miata,Rx7,Rx8,Mr2,944,914,S2000,Caymen,Boxter,240 z,240sx or
Elise nor will it ever be no matter what you do to it.This is where people with cars outside of these listed need to understand to get this special ride you may have to make some power and size/scale sacrifices to get this magic!

[Tbomb 25]

Originally Posted by bestwheelbase

Yes. The Evo does little for me.

I really liked my fiends Evo 8 RS barbones pretty light and the closest awd car that i felt had true rwd type fun but still not fully there....the other 2 that were pretty good was my 323 GTX and 1st gen GSX...

[bestwheelbase]

Originally Posted by Tbomb 25

323 GTX

That would be fun, but not as a daily driver. And I hear parts are getting harder to find.

[DeeezNuuuts83]

Originally Posted by Tbomb 25

I really liked my fiends Evo 8 RS barbones pretty light and the closest awd car that i felt had true rwd type fun but still not fully there....

I think that's what a lot of people fail to realize or acknowledge, as it gets brushed aside solely because it's an AWD platform without knowing that it's actually a very fun car that is surprisingly involving, given its less-than-ideal layout and specifics -- AWD, 3200+ lb., 60-40 front-rear weight distribution, etc. -- which generally isn't indicative of such descriptions. I agree, it's no ~50-50 FR (or rear-biased MR/RR either), but it's not light years behind those cars either, though a lot of other AWD cars are. Glad to have more input from people who have had seat time.

[Tbomb 25]

Originally Posted by bestwheelbase

That would be fun, but not as a daily driver. And I hear parts are getting harder to find.

It was a good daily driver,parts are very very hard to come by and that drivtrain is tough as nails...easilly 1 of my favorite cars and its on that "regret i got rid of list
' lol

[Tbomb 25]

Originally Posted by DeeezNuuuts83

I think that's what a lot of people fail to realize or acknowledge, as it gets brushed aside solely because it's an AWD platform without knowing that it's actually a very fun car that is surprisingly involving, given its less-than-ideal layout and specifics -- AWD, 3200+ lb., 60-40 front-rear weight distribution, etc. -- which generally isn't indicative of such descriptions. I agree, it's no ~50-50 FR (or rear-biased MR/RR either), but it's not light years behind those cars either, though a lot of other AWD cars are. Glad to have more input from people who have had seat time.

I agree with you here, even some FWD cars i feel this way about. The Evo 8 was a all time great platform for many different types of racing and driving it and the STI are arguably the most verstaile cars of all time. The Evo had active diffs well the RS and MR did so you could adjust it 20/80 rear biased if you wanted to..

[07stealth350z]

Originally Posted by fatoni

yeah but dont they want like 36 for it or something? i havent been there since october

If I remember correctly. They wanted $50k+ for them. The grey one that I saw at least. I would have jumped on 1 had they asked for the original msrp of $36k. Lol. They might not even be for sale anymore. James the owner likes to keep cars like that for a collection. He's had an R34 GT-R in there and a 3000GT VR4 just to have them in the showroom

[DeeezNuuuts83]

Originally Posted by 07stealth350z

If I remember correctly. They wanted $50k+ for them. The grey one that I saw at least. I would have jumped on 1 had they asked for the original msrp of $36k. Lol. They might not even be for sale anymore. James the owner likes to keep cars like that for a collection. He's had an R34 GT-R in there and a 3000GT VR4 just to have them in the showroom

When they had first made it known that they had the cars, they actually did want sticker, as they were always known for selling Evos well below MSRP. But there was supposedly a buyer from the Middle East who paid that much for one (plus it had to be shipped there), and that subsequently raised the bar for their asking price.

Also, Abbas is the owner (not sure who "James" is), and he also owns Hungtington Beach, Long Beach and Victorville Mitsubishi. The R34 was moved to the back behind the dealership resting between other Evos (and I think this was done around the time the EPA/DOT was hunting them down). I think there was also an Evo VI back there, but that one got sold.

[07stealth350z]

Originally Posted by DeeezNuuuts83

When they had first made it known that they had the cars, they actually did want sticker, as they were always known for selling Evos well below MSRP. But there was supposedly a buyer from the Middle East who paid that much for one (plus it had to be shipped there), and that subsequently raised the bar for their asking price.

Also, Abbas is the owner (not sure who "James" is), and he also owns Hungtington Beach, Long Beach and Victorville Mitsubishi. The R34 was moved to the back behind the dealership resting between other Evos (and I think this was done around the time the EPA/DOT was hunting them down). I think there was also an Evo VI back there, but that one got sold.

The blue Evo VI got sold alooooong time ago as well as the White R34 (went to the Philippines I think). When was the last time you went to SCM? James is the Middle Eastern guy (Vague I know, because a couple of middle eastern/persian guys work there). Im pretty sure he owns the shop, because he has talked about his other stores too, but he may be the head GM, either way he is high up there. And I talk to Sam alot. If you have been there, Im almost positive you know who that is.

[DeeezNuuuts83]

My office is only a few miles away from that dealership. I think I had my 45k mile service there at the end of 2011, though I don't think I've been there recently. Abbas is for sure the owner though. I know Sam, but he's been at Huntington Beach Mitsubishi for a while... I saw him there maybe a month ago when I had my oil change done there at that dealership since I wasn't a big fan of South Coast's service advisor, though I heard that guy isn't there anymore.

[Wes]

Nope, keep it! I wish I could have a Evo IX MR lol

[fernan2]

O.P. i only have 1 question, are you stupid???

[Thunderchicken]

I think what most people who haven't had a 300+ HP car and daily drive it day after day, the car just gets mind numbing cause you really can't rev the car without hitting triple digit speeds. Hell my STi gets to speed by 3rd gear and if you keep pushing it, it's ticket time, however my '02 Si is a blast to drive cause I can stretch its legs out in about all gears without worrying too much about tickets, the same thing was true for the '05 WRX I had.

[Chewie4299]

Originally Posted by Thunderchicken

I think what most people who haven't had a 300+ HP car and daily drive it day after day, the car just gets mind numbing cause you really can't rev the car without hitting triple digit speeds. Hell my STi gets to speed by 3rd gear and if you keep pushing it, it's ticket time, however my '02 Si is a blast to drive cause I can stretch its legs out in about all gears without worrying too much about tickets, the same thing was true for the '05 WRX I had.

My thoughts exactly. I could set my sights on evo-land again and pick up a used IX easily enough. But when I think back I always felt guilty really 'giving it the beans'. It's an amazing car and I'd love to own one again but at this point the FR-S/BRZ has me drooling. After driving it I lust for it. I want something that I can really wring out more often.

My Jeep is something different but when I think back to my cars.... My Lancer was fun. I put an intake in it and some coilovers so that it could turn a little better. I loved it because I COULD push it.

When I got my Evo I was in heaven... but I didn't keep it long because I saw myself getting in a lot of trouble (and it was a financially stupid move to begin with at the time).

[Tbomb 25]

Originally Posted by 07stealth350z

If I remember correctly. They wanted $50k+ for them. The grey one that I saw at least. I would have jumped on 1 had they asked for the original msrp of $36k. Lol. They might not even be for sale anymore. James the owner likes to keep cars like that for a collection. He's had an R34 GT-R in there and a 3000GT VR4 just to have them in the showroom

I had a VR4 about 5 years ago the 1st gen had a terrible tranny got mine with 80k miles at 85k miles of being gentle with it the 2nd gear syncro's started to go and they were super duper expensive to fix just for syncro's..so i sold it and took a 2k loss on it. The 1 to buy is the 2nd gen with the pretty stong 6speed getrag tranny wish i would have spent a lil more $ to get the 2nd gen to enjoy this beast...

[Type[R]+]

Originally Posted by ngabdala

Hell no. Your MR is raw, evil, and the best Evo generation out there. Plus it's the last year the bulletproof engine was put in the evos.

Best is the 6.5, but your forgiven because you guys never got them. Still Hell no though!

[Max Schnell]

Originally Posted by DOMOAE92

bone stock

Well there is your problem. Solve that and other cars will not interest you as much. Yes I have been there with stock Evo VIII MR.

[DeeezNuuuts83]

Originally Posted by Max Schnell

Well there is your problem. Solve that and other cars will not interest you as much. Yes I have been there with stock Evo VIII MR.

That's never been a problem for me. It helps for people who don't drive like madmen on their daily commute. I drive it like it's a regular car when I'm going to work and back, so when I'm in a fun situation, I'm reminded of how fun the car is in stock form.

Also, my girlfriend was gone for a week, and I drove her 2010 Corolla the whole time (since she didn't care, plus it wouldn't hurt to save a few dollars in gas when I'm just going to work and back), and it felt like I had a new car when I got back into my Evo.

[Max Schnell]

driving a slower car for awhile does help. All I am saying is if you even entertained trading it in then bone stock may have been getting a bit boring.

I know my stock MR was little underwhelming after awhile. The stock clutch kind of sucked at grabbing and stock tires were noisy. Not to mention the lousy gas milage and interior noise at speed.

Most guys with even mildly tuned Evos have nothing but praise for them though. A few choice mods can make it feel like a new car too without compromising reliability much.

I traded mine in for a Rav4...