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Old 09-17-2014, 08:36 PM   #1
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S2000 vs. FR-S BRZ Track Review Video | Part 2 of 2

S2000 vs 86 Platform Complete | Track Review | VIDEO

We complete the street and track testing comparing the S2000 against a stock BRZ and Supercharged FRS. In part one we talk about the details of both cars, the history, practicality and much more.

Part two compares the supercharged FR-S on the track with identical wheel horsepower as the S2000 to help level the playing field.

2005 S2000 Stock:
POWER: 208HP 150lbsTq Dynojet (Wheel horsepower)
Tires: Hankook RS3 225/255
Brakes: Carbotech XP12 Pads
Oil: Redline 10w30
Alignment: -2.2F -1.5R Camber

2013 Scion FRS Supercharged:
Power: 212HP 181lbsTq Dynojet (Wheel Horsepower)
Tires: 235 Hankook RS3s
Brakes: AP Sprint Project Mu 999 Pads
Cooling: Liquid to Air Oil Cooler | Perrin Tune
Oil: Redline 10w30
Suspenion: Ohlins | -3.0F -2.0R Camber


PART 1


S2000
0:00 - 0:52 Introduction Montage
0:52 - 2:32 The History and Chief Engineer Shigeru Uehara
2:32 - 6:07 Under the Skin with Turbowski
6:07 - 9:02 Getting Inside
9:02 - 11:22 Driving Impressions Analog vs Digital
11:23 - 11:43 Learning the Hard Way - RIP
11:45 - 12:17 S2000 Final Thoughts

GT86 - FR-S - BRZ and Supercharged FR-S
12:17 - 14:12 The 86 Platform History with Engineers Tada San
14:12 - 16:10 Interior Overview and Engineering
16:11 - 18:01 Driving the Stock BRZ, FR-S and GT86
18:01 - 19:57 Driving the Supercharged FR-S
20:00 - 20:45 Final Thoughts and Track Review Coming Soon
20:45 Outtakes


PART 2:


0:00-1:22 Introduction
1:22-1:51 Disclaimer and Leveling Playing Field
1:52-2:36 Comparing Drivers
2:37-4:52 The FR-S Supercharged Laptime
4:53-5:28 The Mythical TRD/STI 86
5:28-6:36 The real values stock vs. stock
6:37-7:07 The initial results and switching drivers

7:08-10:17 Flat out the Track Comparison
10:17-11:11 The results and impressions
11:11-12:08 Conclusion Not a race car
11:00-12:24 Thoughts on the 86
12:24-14:09 The Winner
14:09-17:03 Outtakes
17:03-17:54 Credits













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Old 09-17-2014, 08:45 PM   #2
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Sweet, it's finally out. Been following your videos for a while now. Very informative and interesting to say the least. The bromance is strong in that last picture.
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great video as always. Thanks for taking the time to do it!
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Time to make some popcorn and enjoy this bad boy!
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I don't even need to watch to know which car op prefers...

Just get an s2000 already...
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I don't even need to watch to know which car op prefers...

Just get an s2000 already...
That s2000 is his...
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Video is too long. Will watch when I get home tonight.
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If I were driving, which car would have been faster?
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Really well done.. I love how honest you are about these cars (good and bad for both).

Look forward to the next installment.
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Had an S2000, 350Z, and FR-S now. The S2000 is incredible, but for the price, I'll take the new, more practical car with a warranty. I doubt I'd ever buy a tank (350Z) again. It's hard to find a non-rodded/modded S2000 in good condition. Mine sure wasn't when I bought it. Overall I found the review biased but informative.
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Old 09-17-2014, 10:43 PM   #13
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Had an S2000, 350Z, and FR-S now. The S2000 is incredible, but for the price, I'll take the new, more practical car with a warranty. I doubt I'd ever buy a tank (350Z) again. It's hard to find a non-rodded/modded S2000 in good condition. Mine sure wasn't when I bought it. Overall I found the review biased but informative.
If you have to go forced induction on the FR-S to match the stock power of the S2K you lose much of the warranty advantage on the new car.

That said, I am with you on finding a clean S2K. I have been looking most of this year and they are few and far between. And many of them are well over $20K. But I agree with Dezoris and Turbowski that the S2K will hold its value much better long term.
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Not trying to be nitpicky, but this comparison doesn't make much sense to me, to be honest. Why match hp figures and ignore all of the other differences? The FRS is lighter right off the bat, so that's going to give it a better power-to-weight ratio, and then you gave it light weight aftermarket wheels, coilovers, and a big brake kit versus a relatively stock S2000 (minus brake pads and tires). That's significant weight savings and a substantial handling improvement given to the FRS, while at the same time allowing it to have approximately 30lbs/ft more torque and a square tire setup, where as the S2000 is using the stock staggered setup, which will not turn in as well due to less front grip. Besides that, there seemed to be quite long stretches of straightaways, which obviously is going to benefit the car with a better power-to-weight and more torque. It seems like the outcome could have been easily predicted... and, realistically, it's not even close to an even comparison in terms of price or level of mods. *shrug*
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