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Old 05-28-2012, 10:38 PM   #1
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2JZ swap?

Uras and now speedhunters working on toyota 86 with 2JZ, whats your opinion about it?

Lot of power available but, what about the handling?
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:52 PM   #2
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It'll be front heavy as a mug, but damn it'll make some power!

I wouldn't do it myself, but I approve on the grounds of 'Why the hell not?!?'
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:56 PM   #3
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2JZ you say? Now... That would officially make it be todays mini Supra!
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considering that i have been doing JZ swaps for some time now (miata,240sx,sc300/400. and supras) i thought about this same idea, yes it will fit like a glove but the car will loose its fun factor that it was given, unless you keep the stock twins on the 2jz then the car will just be a cool highway car instead of a track car
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theres a video of the 2jz miata me and a few buddies built from a friends garage

its a 2JZGE with a na-t turbo kit the engine sits a lil high but if he would have gone with a front sump oil pan we could have lowered the engine some more. the car actually had fueling issues as the owner wanted to stick with just a safc and doing a blow through maf setup, he is now in the process of going even bigger turbo and using a aem fic,

heres how the car currently looks as it sits he is doing meth injection so no FMIC and he had to turn the turbo backwards to clear somethings
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Old 05-28-2012, 11:33 PM   #6
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An all-aluminum LSx would be a better match for this car if it will fit. Low-weight as far back as possible.
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Old 05-29-2012, 12:21 AM   #7
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as much as i like the FA and its pure handling and what not.....n ls swap would be nastyy
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2JZ woooo big shocker. Im so excited to see what will happen....

Show me the new FA20 DI Turbo from the JDM Leggy w ~295/295
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reminded me of my 2JZ swapped Celica :p


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Old 05-29-2012, 10:25 PM   #10
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I would love to do it myself, in DR they are lots of parts available for 2jz, and almost every mechanic has work with a 2jz, but i dont want to lose the fun factor, the so i guess i might stay with FA20 and spend money on it
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It makes a pretty cool highway monster/drag car and gives an excuse to mean wide wheels in the back.
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2J was a great engine 15 years ago. great peak power. but not great power under the curve, or great hp to lb ratio. Big indestructible iron block is good for going in straight lines. But heck, even toyota swapped it out for something more effective for JGTC...
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they swapped out the 2jz for a 1uz..so NA 1UZ swap?

personally id rather SC/Turbo the FA20
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hell yeah i say why not..... if you have the money to spend and want to spend it, then make something awesome and ill over it! LOL. im sure they will makes tons of power and slide like a penguin on ice! I still wish people would focus on the platform provided first but hey to each their own!!! Ill be watching!
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An all-aluminum LSx would be a better match for this car if it will fit. Low-weight as far back as possible.
This. And I imagine we'll see it happen before too long.
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I would love to see some high HP FA20s, but to make the real reliable power a swap I think wouldn't be a bad move for a street or drag car.

Any motorsport other than drifting isn't a fan of 2JZ and LS swaps though... So I'll be sticking with the FA20.
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FA20 is a nice enough motor, but until there is some kind of tuning solution / unlock for the stock ECU its going to be pretty hard to utilize it properly. None of the currently available standalones will control the direct injection unit.

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Handling and weight balance aside, the 2JZ is an old-ass motor, and a stupid swap because no one else is going to look at it and say "oh yeah, it's totally feasible for me to do that!" The last 2JZ engine was offered in what, 2005? It would never be emissions legal in all but the most careless states, and the platform has been beaten to death, so why not work with the new engine and push the FA20 forward, rather than going backward? That to me is the equivalent of watching NASCAR. The car on the outside looks like a Toyota Camry, but underneath its a tube frame chassis with a (now only recently fuel-injected) big V8 and a solid rear axle. Nothing that normal people would ever aspire to. ("Hoo-doogy! I just bought this brand new 2012 Camry and I'ma tube it and put a big ol' honkin' V8 in there! 'Merica!!") At least if you're going to do a swap, put something modern in there that can potentially be road-legal. Just my $.02

But as long as we're talking ridiculous swaps, how about an LF-A motor?
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Handling and weight balance aside, the 2JZ is an old-ass motor, and a stupid swap because no one else is going to look at it and say "oh yeah, it's totally feasible for me to do that!" The last 2JZ engine was offered in what, 2005? It would never be emissions legal in all but the most careless states, and the platform has been beaten to death, so why not work with the new engine and push the FA20 forward, rather than going backward? That to me is the equivalent of watching NASCAR. The car on the outside looks like a Toyota Camry, but underneath its a tube frame chassis with a (now only recently fuel-injected) big V8 and a solid rear axle. Nothing that normal people would ever aspire to. ("Hoo-doogy! I just bought this brand new 2012 Camry and I'ma tube it and put a big ol' honkin' V8 in there! 'Merica!!") At least if you're going to do a swap, put something modern in there that can potentially be road-legal. Just my $.02

But as long as we're talking ridiculous swaps, how about an LF-A motor?
If you wanted to go absolutely absurd with it, an LS-9 gets you 638 emissions compliant horsepower for only $21k compared to that lump of unobtainium.
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if they mass produced anything similar to that LFA engine(to lower the cost) id be allllllll over it. god it sounds amazing
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