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Old 05-22-2012, 12:57 PM   #1
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BRZ front camber adjustment confirmed

Here ya'll go. Camber adjustment on the BRZ

"Replace the upper mounting bolt of the shock absorber ASSY FR and knuckle with a replacement bolt. (Part No.: Flange bolt 1460 (901000394))"

"The range adjustable by replacing the bolts is 0 45'"

I'm trying to get a screen shot of the online manual
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Old 05-22-2012, 12:59 PM   #2
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Is that the normal standard one??? thanks OBTW..can you tell how much the Alternator puts out..


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Old 05-22-2012, 01:00 PM   #3
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Yes, we already knew this a while back when I posted the information from the Scion manual.



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Is that the normal standard one??? thanks OBTW..can you tell how much the Alternator puts out..


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Different part number for the top bolt

And YES the title says BRZ
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Yes, we already knew this a while back when I posted the information from the Scion manual.



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Jeff...it has to be in 'both' manuals to be considered for stock class racing in Autocross... so its good comfirmation that its in both..

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True, good point.

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Is that the normal standard one??? thanks OBTW..can you tell how much the Alternator puts out..


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This is all that's listed under specs

SERVICE DATA
Charging circuit without load
Standard amperage: 10 A or less
Standard voltage: 11.3 to 15.6 V
Charging circuit with load
Standard amperage: 30 A or higher
Brush length
Standard length: 22.5 mm (0.885 in.)
Minimum exposed length: 5.0 mm (0.196 in.)
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Why wouldn't this have been included stock? Is this simply a bolt with an eccentric?
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Why wouldn't this have been included stock? Is this simply a bolt with an eccentric?
It's the same eccentric bolt IIRC that's used OEM on every other Subaru. We knew it fits but it's awesome to see that it's in the manual if that means it's usable for stock autocrossers (i'm not clear on that myself). EDIT: see below.

No idea why it's not just included from the factory but I'd highly recommend it for everyone, even if you get camber plates. It's cheap too.

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It's the same eccentric bolt IIRC that's used OEM on every other Subaru. We knew it fits but it's awesome to see that it's in the manual if that means it's usable for stock autocrossers (i'm not clear on that myself).

No idea why it's not just included from the factory but I'd highly recommend it for everyone, even if you get camber plates. It's cheap too.

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Andrew - I ran the number and it's original on the 2012 Impreza/Forester, and for alignment (crash bolt) on BRZ
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Ah yes, Myles in the office is more on top of that stuff than me. Good call.

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Here's the screen shot

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plus or mines .45 degrees....? Am I reading that right? Doesn't really seem like it'd be enough.
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0.0" +/- 4.5' = .075 degrees - Recommended

0" 45' = .75 degrees - With the adjustment bolts

Its the minutes to degrees covnersion
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sparks - good to see the Subaru procedure finally - any idea when this will go public at http://techinfo.subaru.com/index.html ?

Interesting to see that even though the Toyota/Scion part numbers are different than typical Toyota numbers, they are also completely different than the Subaru number.

Also, is it really +/- 4.5' recommended for Subaru? For scion, it is +/- 45' 'Standard Dimension' and then another +/- 45' adjustment from the replacement bolt.
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0.0" +/- 4.5' = .075 degrees - Recommended

0" 45' = .75 degrees - With the adjustment bolts

Its the minutes to degrees covnersion
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What's the stock camber before putting this bolt in?
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What's the stock camber before putting this bolt in?
Perrin said the front is set to 0* and the rear is -.5*
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Ten bucks worth of Negative Camber

Installed Subaru camber bolts and had the car aligned the following day. The max negative camber we could get was 1.0 degree.

Front camber -1.0
caster 5.6
toe 0.0

Rear camber -1.0
toe .14

Still...this is an improvement over stock (front) camber of 0 degrees for $10- in parts
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my BC coilovers come "slotted" for camber adjustment and are maxed out as of right now. the knuckle is hitting the coilover "lower mount" on top, so a camber bolt in the top hole will not give me anymore negative camber, will i be able to install the bolt in the lower hole? id like to get more negative camber up front for clearance reasons with wide wheels. On my old STi it was specific which bolts can be replaced and which would need to stay with stock bolts otherwise its likely to slip.
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Lower bolt hole can be used, it's advertised as "for race use only" by the bolt manufacturer. Which means it will probably slip eventually,
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I wonder what the max we could get with these + Eibach style bolts is. I could easily get 3* on my old Impreza. And if you install them correctly slipping isn't really an issue.

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