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ichitaka05 · 04-23-2012, 10:31 PM

Basic spec of Product Info

Hachiroku · 04-24-2012, 11:03 PM

Thanks to Ichi for the awesome coverage!

bestwheelbase · 04-24-2012, 11:09 PM

Thank you Ichi.

denkigrve · 04-24-2012, 11:35 PM

Thanks Ichi! Finally some real specs about MPG and gear ratios. The wait is getting harder and harder!

Itgb · 04-24-2012, 11:44 PM

LOL, 4lbs lighter than a BRZ Premium.

2,758 vs. 2,762

So much for that advantage that everyone was boasting about.

tripjammer · 04-24-2012, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Itgb

LOL, 4lbs lighter than a BRZ Premium.

2,758 vs. 2,762

So much for that advantage that everyone was boasting about.

Damn I thought it was going to be closer to 2700 pounds, not 2800 pounds! WTF!

I guess HIDS, and nav don't really weigh that much..oh wait..4 pounds..

denkigrve · 04-24-2012, 11:59 PM

Please leave the FRS vs BRZ nonsense out of this thread. Some like the Scion. Some prefer the Toyota, and some prefer the BRZ. They are entitled to like what they like. Move on with your lives.

luxmn · 04-25-2012, 12:00 AM

i know it's a sport car but i didn't know til now that premium gas is *required*, tsk guess i have to start paying attention to the bigger number.

ajkl · 04-25-2012, 12:18 AM

Why is the 5th gear 1:1? Damn you Toyota. I dislike having to use premium on a car that will be my DD and I've resigned myself to that fact. Now the MT gets poorer MPG than the AT version because different ratios were chosen. WTF

denkigrve · 04-25-2012, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by luxmn

i know it's a sport car but i didn't know til now that premium gas is *required*, tsk guess i have to start paying attention to the bigger number.

The compression ratio and the Boxer motor itself are the reasoning. You get used to it. I've been stuck with Premium for the past 6 1/2 years with my WRX. You just only focus on the big number at the station, and ignore the little ones.

cambo · 04-25-2012, 12:23 AM

Am I the only one who thinks 25mpg combined is a bit low?

denkigrve · 04-25-2012, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by cambo

Am I the only one who thinks 25mpg combined is a bit low?

My WRX is a 2.0 with a turbo and gets 217HP and I get an average of 21 to 22. HWY is definitely higher, but only at the average for the FRS at best. It makes sense since the Boxer is not fuel efficient in any way when you want any sort of performance from it.

luxmn · 04-25-2012, 12:27 AM

someone correct me if im wrong but isnt that turning circle radius of 17.7' (35.4' turning circle) is a little big on paper? That's the same as an S2000 and almost 5' bigger than the MX5. My current drive has 38 turning circle and I hate it and I remembered the FRS hugging the turn very well during my test drive in Long Beach so I was expecting something smaller.

86'd · 04-25-2012, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Itgb

LOL, 4lbs lighter than a BRZ Premium.

2,758 vs. 2,762

So much for that advantage that everyone was boasting about.

You forgot to add destination ... oh wait..

brzmaybe · 04-25-2012, 05:32 AM

...looks like the difference in gear ratios between manual and automatic transmission versions might help explain the difference in EPA mileage estimates...

chulooz · 04-25-2012, 08:00 AM

I cant believe people still hold MT EPA estimates as relative to actual MPGs. Wake up, produce one reasonable vehicle that has a better "real world" (thats where you are driving right? Yeah, not EPA land) AT vs MT.

Then again we are talking MPGs on a performance car, its like wanting a light 12ga with low recoil.... Under given cirumstances the relationship is a cause and effect.

The4kBeast · 04-25-2012, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ajkl

Why is the 5th gear 1:1? Damn you Toyota. I dislike having to use premium on a car that will be my DD and I've resigned myself to that fact. Now the MT gets poorer MPG than the AT version because different ratios were chosen. WTF

Seriously? You do realize that moving the 1:1 gear to fifth means you have closer spaced 1-5 gears, right? It's basically a close-ratio gearbox, which means you'll have a better selection of gears for accelerating out of corners. Also the gearing on the manual is going to be much different than the automatic, where 4th is your 1:1. Personally, I'd rather have an awesome close ratio gear box at the cost of MPG...

ajkl · 04-25-2012, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The4kBeast

Seriously? You do realize that moving the 1:1 gear to fifth means you have closer spaced 1-5 gears, right? It's basically a close-ratio gearbox, which means you'll have a better selection of gears for accelerating out of corners. Also the gearing on the manual is going to be much different than the automatic, where 4th is your 1:1. Personally, I'd rather have an awesome close ratio gear box at the cost of MPG...

I understand that, though I never felt Toyota's gearboxes needed closer ratios. They have needed a better final gear so that when I'm cruising down the highway at 70+, the car doesn't need to be at 3300rpm or higher. Never mind the fact that, when on the track, I'm never going to get to the 5 gear - 4 gear maybe on larger tracks with long straightaways and sweeping corners. The torque curve on this car is rather broad and flat, so I don't expect that this car will require searching for the right rev band.

dookie11 · 04-25-2012, 11:54 AM

I don't understand the "Standard Audio System." It says 300W and then it says 160W. Which is it?? Please advise.

Dadhawk · 04-25-2012, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dookie11

I don't understand the "Standard Audio System." It says 300W and then it says 160W. Which is it?? Please advise.

They are including the 140W amp in the total.

Spd229 · 04-25-2012, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

They are including the 140W amp in the total.

Dadhawk beat me to it. That's also why you'll see that the bespoke may be advertised as a 340 watt system

200 for the bespoke HU + 140 for the amp

dookie11 · 04-25-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

They are including the 140W amp in the total.

Oh cool! This system has the numbers, but not the looks lol. Saddddd

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luxmn First FR-S Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Whiteout MT FRS Location: austin tx Posts: 566 Thanks: 120 Thanked 124 Times in 82 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	someone correct me if im wrong but isnt that turning circle radius of 17.7' (35.4' turning circle) is a little big on paper? That's the same as an S2000 and almost 5' bigger than the MX5. My current drive has 38 turning circle and I hate it and I remembered the FRS hugging the turn very well during my test drive in Long Beach so I was expecting something smaller.

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brzmaybe Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Subaru Location: Virginia Posts: 73 Thanks: 6 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	...looks like the difference in gear ratios between manual and automatic transmission versions might help explain the difference in EPA mileage estimates...

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chulooz Registered user Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: 99 impreza coupe Location: Washington DC/ Derby CT Posts: 1,407 Thanks: 246 Thanked 237 Times in 137 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I cant believe people still hold MT EPA estimates as relative to actual MPGs. Wake up, produce one reasonable vehicle that has a better "real world" (thats where you are driving right? Yeah, not EPA land) AT vs MT. Then again we are talking MPGs on a performance car, its like wanting a light 12ga with low recoil.... Under given cirumstances the relationship is a cause and effect.

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