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Veloist · 04-05-2012, 11:35 AM

Now that both cars' official prices have been released....

FR-S Pricing Thread:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4328

BRZ Pricing Thread:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4755

Me, I'm staying with the FR-S because fanboyism and favoritism and pride with Toyota. Never thought once about getting the BRZ over the FR-S!

koyv90 · 04-05-2012, 11:45 AM

No reason to not go for the BRZ now, Better interior all around, better head lights.

Much easier to swap front bumper then interior and headlights.

czar07 · 04-05-2012, 11:48 AM

umm...you will have to swap headlights, otherwise the bumper wont fit..

koyv90 · 04-05-2012, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czar07

umm...you will have to swap headlights, otherwise the bumper wont fit..

there was a thread talking about the headlights can be swaped with out changing bumpers soooooo. Unless that was disproved.(hope not)

Rabble · 04-05-2012, 12:02 PM

I don't really think it matters, they are the same car with different options. HIDs at autozone/o'rilley is only like $200 for the pair and navi can be argued down. I personally don't like the jersey cloth of the mid-range interior, but different strokes for different folks.

PERRIN_Chris · 04-05-2012, 12:03 PM

For sure BRZ seems like it's a better deal with the HIDs, an better stereo. I still do like the FR-S looks better though.

Jeff Lange · 04-05-2012, 12:05 PM

Yes, I think the BRZ is a better value. Doesn't mean I'd buy one, but I do think it's a better value. In the USA anyway.

We'll see what Canada gets.

Jeff

Spd229 · 04-05-2012, 12:05 PM

actually on the stereo part. The HU itself includes navi sure, but the wattage is lower than the FRS. Unless those numbers were incorrect (another thread, I'll have to find it)

Granted, that's nothing either way. I'm more or less just concerned about the material quality of each cloth and how long each would last.

Kiteless · 04-05-2012, 12:13 PM

I much prefer the look of the FR-S and how it looks like the GT-86 (I am planning on a rebadge) I am not willing to spend over $1300 for nav and HID's. I know some folks think the FR-S is over priced, but personally given that an teeny iQ costs $16,000 with all the same Scion gadgets on it. Cars are just way more expensive than they used to be.

That being said I think both cars look fantastic and I am sure no matter what car someone chooses, FR-S/BRZ I think they will be a delight to drive and own for many many years.

viper_driver · 04-05-2012, 12:22 PM

cancelled my FR-S order this morning and swapped sides to the BRZ. better value in my opinion.

86fanatic · 04-05-2012, 12:24 PM

FR-S looks better.
FR-S is simpler (don't need a tv screen in my sports car).
FR-S is lighter (although somewhat trivial - it's worth more to me then fancy features).
FR-S is tuned for over steer.

$1200 for HIDs and navigation isn't what I call a screaming deal.

Jayp · 04-05-2012, 12:26 PM

I'm sticking with the FR-S. Main reason, the only Subaru dealership sucks here. What I'm hoping now is that most of Scion's accessories for the FR-S will match what the BRZ has standard, which I don't see that hard to do.

Frost · 04-05-2012, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86fanatic

FR-S looks better.
FR-S is simpler (don't need a tv screen in my sports car).
FR-S is lighter (although somewhat trivial - it's worth more to me then fancy features).
FR-S is tuned for over steer.

$1200 for HIDs and navigation isn't what I call a screaming deal.

How much lighter is the FR-S over the BR-Z? Not being sarcastic but I really don't know.

Agree on point #1 though. I'll install my gauges down the road as I get more serious.

Jeff Lange · 04-05-2012, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86fanatic

FR-S looks better.
FR-S is simpler (don't need a tv screen in my sports car).
FR-S is lighter (although somewhat trivial - it's worth more to me then fancy features).
FR-S is tuned for over steer.

$1200 for HIDs and navigation isn't what I call a screaming deal.

I wouldn't want the nav either way, but I would like the HID's. Still probably not enough to convince me to get the BRZ over the FR-S. Even though I do consider it a better value, I think the FR-S would still get my vote based on USA pricing/options.

It is a pretty close comparison though for pricing.

Jeff

ZDan · 04-05-2012, 12:30 PM

Greatly prefer the FR-S exterior.
Greatly prefer the BRZ interior (want leather/alcantara).

WTF, Toyobaru.

Might end up getting another used S2000, though I really want a fixed-roof and +2 utility.

rcm47 · 04-05-2012, 12:36 PM

Still getting the FR-S!

Draco-REX · 04-05-2012, 12:37 PM

Before you FR-Sers jumps ship, consider that it is a $1315 difference. A grand isn't chump change. OEM Navs are normally mediocre, and HIDs are more bling than function. That money could put you into a good set of rims, or put towards a great set of rims (Volks). Not to mention that will put you half way towards a great set of coilovers, or one hell of a stereo system that would put the BRZ's to shame.

So don't stress out too much.

RRnold · 04-05-2012, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcm47

Still getting the FR-S!

I want the cheaper one! Track days and weekend races don't care for HIDs, feel good seats and a nicer stereos!

86fanatic · 04-05-2012, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lange

I wouldn't want the nav either way, but I would like the HID's. Still probably not enough to convince me to get the BRZ over the FR-S. Even though I do consider it a better value, I think the FR-S would still get my vote based on USA pricing/options.

It is a pretty close comparison though for pricing.

Jeff

Same, HIDs are the one thing I would want. Once you have a car with HIDs it's actually kind of hard to go back. They do make a pretty big difference at night.

But they aren't worth more then a grand. They should be a 300-400 factory/dealer option, or if you really want them you can get bulbs and housings for cheaper on the aftermarket.

I have a feeling Scion will open up options in the future. Once Subaru brings out the stripped BRZ which competes more directly with the FR-S I think the FR-S will also offer more options to compete with the BRZ.

Turbowned · 04-05-2012, 12:42 PM

I think Subaru will have to think twice about making these "limited availability". They're gonna cannabalize FR-S sales sooo bad!

Verge · 04-05-2012, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayp

I'm sticking with the FR-S. Main reason, the only Subaru dealership sucks here. What I'm hoping now is that most of Scion's accessories for the FR-S will match what the BRZ has standard, which I don't see that hard to do.

Amen

also we should get a group buy for las vegas scion folks. Maybe get some deals on accessories or something maybe waive doc fee? xD

meanmud · 04-05-2012, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86fanatic

FR-S looks better.
FR-S is simpler (don't need a tv screen in my sports car).
FR-S is lighter (although somewhat trivial - it's worth more to me then fancy features).
FR-S is tuned for over steer.

$1200 for HIDs and navigation isn't what I call a screaming deal.

Yup ^^^^^

I don't want either of them anyway! HID's carry more weight, right?

View Poll Results: Did the BRZ's price change your mind?
Yes - The BRZ is a better value	102	56.35%
No- I'm sticking with the FR-S	63	34.81%
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04-05-2012, 12:05 PM	#7
Jeff Lange Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 1986 AE86 GT-S, 2011 Lexus IS250 6M Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 579 Thanks: 87 Thanked 240 Times in 117 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yes, I think the BRZ is a better value. Doesn't mean I'd buy one, but I do think it's a better value. In the USA anyway. We'll see what Canada gets. Jeff __________________ 2011 Lexus IS250 Obsidian "F-Sport 6MT" with LSD 1986 AE86 Corolla GT-S Supercharged

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Spd229 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: Ultramarine FR-S AT Location: Atlanta,GA Posts: 513 Thanks: 182 Thanked 241 Times in 125 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	actually on the stereo part. The HU itself includes navi sure, but the wattage is lower than the FRS. Unless those numbers were incorrect (another thread, I'll have to find it) Granted, that's nothing either way. I'm more or less just concerned about the material quality of each cloth and how long each would last. __________________ Chasing an Ultramarine FR-S Auto

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04-05-2012, 11:35 AM	#1
Veloist Cyclist Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: Toyotas Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 299 Thanks: 60 Thanked 96 Times in 44 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	FRS vs BRZ pricing. Are you In or out? Now that both cars' official prices have been released.... FR-S Pricing Thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4328 BRZ Pricing Thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4755 Me, I'm staying with the FR-S because fanboyism and favoritism and pride with Toyota. Never thought once about getting the BRZ over the FR-S! Last edited by Veloist; 04-05-2012 at 12:34 PM.

04-05-2012, 11:45 AM	#2
koyv90 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2002 Acura RSX Type S Location: United States Posts: 322 Thanks: 10 Thanked 16 Times in 12 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No reason to not go for the BRZ now, Better interior all around, better head lights. Much easier to swap front bumper then interior and headlights.

04-05-2012, 11:48 AM	#3
czar07 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Drives: '97 RSP JZZ30 GT-T, '12 PW 86 GT Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 531 Thanks: 344 Thanked 151 Times in 85 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	umm...you will have to swap headlights, otherwise the bumper wont fit..

04-05-2012, 12:02 PM	#5
Rabble Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Asphalt FR-S Location: USA Posts: 329 Thanks: 2 Thanked 21 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't really think it matters, they are the same car with different options. HIDs at autozone/o'rilley is only like $200 for the pair and navi can be argued down. I personally don't like the jersey cloth of the mid-range interior, but different strokes for different folks.

04-05-2012, 12:03 PM	#6
PERRIN_Chris FT86Club Official Vendor Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: Subaru BRZ Location: Hillsboro, Oregon Posts: 260 Thanks: 248 Thanked 159 Times in 84 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	For sure BRZ seems like it's a better deal with the HIDs, an better stereo. I still do like the FR-S looks better though.

04-05-2012, 12:22 PM	#10
viper_driver Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2013 BRZ ordered! Location: KC Posts: 131 Thanks: 13 Thanked 28 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	cancelled my FR-S order this morning and swapped sides to the BRZ. better value in my opinion.

04-05-2012, 12:24 PM	#11
86fanatic Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: auto Location: us Posts: 243 Thanks: 5 Thanked 36 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	FR-S looks better. FR-S is simpler (don't need a tv screen in my sports car). FR-S is lighter (although somewhat trivial - it's worth more to me then fancy features). FR-S is tuned for over steer. $1200 for HIDs and navigation isn't what I call a screaming deal.

04-05-2012, 12:26 PM	#12
Jayp Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: Scion FR-S Location: Las Vegas Posts: 115 Thanks: 60 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm sticking with the FR-S. Main reason, the only Subaru dealership sucks here. What I'm hoping now is that most of Scion's accessories for the FR-S will match what the BRZ has standard, which I don't see that hard to do.

04-05-2012, 12:30 PM	#15
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Draco-REX Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 07 STI, 03 WRX, 13 BRZ Location: Ohio Posts: 2,262 Thanks: 61 Thanked 975 Times in 450 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Before you FR-Sers jumps ship, consider that it is a $1315 difference. A grand isn't chump change. OEM Navs are normally mediocre, and HIDs are more bling than function. That money could put you into a good set of rims, or put towards a great set of rims (Volks). Not to mention that will put you half way towards a great set of coilovers, or one hell of a stereo system that would put the BRZ's to shame. So don't stress out too much.