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e92bmw · 03-21-2012, 07:47 PM

Hey guys
I have an 09 335i with relatively low mileage.
Its fully loaded and plenty of fun, but I've never been able to hold onto a car for too long and the BRZ/FRS just sounds like a lot of fun. I've been looking into numerous options, and I thought I would entertain the idea of getting a subie.

I'm sure it would be a whole new kind of experience seeing that these cars are much slower, but it seems like it will be a different kind of exciting. There just seems to be so much hype about the engineering behind the car? I've also heard there will be very limited numbers produced which is another bonus.

I don't know too much about this new car so any pointers on the pros and cons or anything else worth knowing would be nice.

What would you guys do in this situation?

stlgrym3 · 03-21-2012, 07:52 PM

if you have money to burn, why not get the FRS/BRZ as your 2nd/weekend car.

tranzformer · 03-21-2012, 08:19 PM

Unless I have extra $$$ for maintenance on the BMW when it is out of warranty, I would sell it/trade it in before it is out of warranty. Just depends on your finances and if you can swing the BRZ/FRS. But BMW cars are expensive to fix if something happens.

Pakjk89 · 03-21-2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer

Unless I have extra $$$ for maintenance on the BMW when it is out of warranty, I would sell it/trade it in before it is out of warranty. Just depends on your finances and if you can swing the BRZ/FRS. But BMW cars are expensive to fix if something happens.

+1 this is so true. My family has gone german for our past few cars and our BMWs have always been the worst. I no longer want a BMW or German car for that matter until I can afford the work after the warranty expires.

miata · 03-21-2012, 08:47 PM

Get a FRS and start autocrossing. You won't miss the 335i.

blacknbean · 03-21-2012, 09:07 PM

i have a 335i as well. i plan to keep it as a nice DD and make the brz more track oriented rather than modding the 335. mods should be waay cheaper on the brz as well.

bestwheelbase · 03-21-2012, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by e92bmw

What would you guys do in this situation?

Drive it and compare the enjoyment to the E92 and go from there. Low-rpm torque and overall weight are very different... it will be interesting to hear your comparison!

MRZ415 · 03-21-2012, 09:14 PM

Unless your about to cross into 40K miles ... stay with the 335i
a bit longer till you see RELEASE series 1.0 ... its got to come
with some sort of body kit if NOT the TRD one ... and it may even
get the HID lights (before they start selling those as an added option)

poormans_LFA · 03-21-2012, 09:31 PM

sell that computerized euro trash and cop some of that Japanese reliability.

A Gomez · 03-21-2012, 09:50 PM

Why would you step down instead of stepping up? Keep

MRZ415 · 03-21-2012, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by A Gomez

Why would you step down instead of stepping up? Keep

Total cost of ownership is higher on european vehicles ...
I am learning this first hand the hard way... I am for sure
going with a different car ((subaru brz)) before my car hits
38000 miles.

poormans_LFA · 03-21-2012, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by A Gomez

Why would you step down instead of stepping up? Keep

lol. a BMW is anything but a step up, IMO. software problems, window motor gltiches....if that's "stepping up" i'll pass. if you lease cars to change em' out like people change clothes BMW is the way to go. otherwise have fun paying out the nose in post warranty expenses. flame on.

A Gomez · 03-21-2012, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by poormans_LFA

lol. a BMW is anything but a step up, IMO. software problems, window motor gltiches....if that's "stepping up" i'll pass. if you lease cars to change em' out like people change clothes BMW is the way to go. otherwise have fun paying out the nose in post warranty expenses. flame on.

You are entitled to have your opinion and so am I.

poormans_LFA · 03-21-2012, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by A Gomez

You are entitled to have your opinion and so am I.

that's what forums are all about, buddy.

86fanatic · 03-21-2012, 09:59 PM

335i is a car with zero personality. It is a highway cruiser. Put your foot down, go forward really fast. Just a car that doesn't appeal to me at all.

None of us have driven an FRS yet, but it's going to be a much more involving experience. It will be more sensitive to driver inputs, you will feel the road and what's going on, and I think it will bring you into the experience of driving and having fun while driving much more.

Of course maintenance costs and the worry free ownership experience is just the icing on the cake.

Ryephile · 03-21-2012, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by A Gomez

Why would you step down instead of stepping up? Keep

Stepping down based on what, brand snobbery? BMW lost the plot years ago as pure drivers cars. The 335i is a nice insulated GT, but if the OP wants something legit involving, then he'd be stepping up in terms of driver/machine oneness.

If you need to buy a recent BMW that's interesting to drive, you need a facelifted 1st-gen Z4, E46 ZHP, Z4//M Coupe. I haven't driven a 1/M, but if it resembles the feeling of a 135i, it'd be a mess.

A Gomez · 03-21-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryephile

Stepping down based on what, brand snobbery? BMW lost the plot years ago as pure drivers cars. The 335i is a nice insulated GT, but if the OP wants something legit involving, then he'd be stepping up in terms of driver/machine oneness.

If you need to buy a recent BMW that's interesting to drive, you need a facelifted 1st-gen Z4, E46 ZHP, Z4//M Coupe. I haven't driven a 1/M, but if it resembles the feeling of a 135i, it'd be a mess.

Brand snobbery, "I know it all what car is fun to drive" snobbery, what's the difference?

Bender · 03-21-2012, 10:14 PM

E90 owner here, interested in both models but more BRZ due to standard HIDs.

bestwheelbase · 03-21-2012, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by poormans_LFA

if you lease cars to change em' out like people change clothes BMW is the way to go. otherwise have fun paying out the nose in post warranty expenses.

Sadly this is true. They just don't make them like they used to, and with "ultimate service" (aka extended intervals) many are neglected. Often I see E46's leather interiors that are more worn and tattered than an E30 some twenty years older!

Having said that, I don't see it as a move down -- perhaps just in a different direction. Neither is better or worse, just fills a different space.

SOB · 03-22-2012, 02:06 AM

The FRS/BRZ is slower, gets about the same mileage, has less space, uses crappier materials, and has less options.

I'd definitely get the FRS!

MRZ415 · 03-22-2012, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SOB

The FRS/BRZ is slower, gets about the same mileage, has less space, uses crappier materials, and has less options.

I'd definitely get the FRS!

You sir should get a FORD mustang 5.0 and be on your merry way.

Corey · 03-22-2012, 03:53 AM

It's a preference thing but personally I would go for the 86. I autocrossed an E90 for a season and I just couldn't stand how it felt compared to my other options at the time (stock MR-2 and STS prepped 240SX). The BMW felt too big and numb for my liking. Consider the other factors mentioned like repair costs and I think the 86 is a reasonable choice but definitely give it a test drive if/when possible and see how you feel about it.

03-21-2012, 07:47 PM	#1
e92bmw Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: E92 N54 Location: in my car Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Keep my BMW 335i coupe or sell for the new BRZ/FRS? Hey guys I have an 09 335i with relatively low mileage. Its fully loaded and plenty of fun, but I've never been able to hold onto a car for too long and the BRZ/FRS just sounds like a lot of fun. I've been looking into numerous options, and I thought I would entertain the idea of getting a subie. I'm sure it would be a whole new kind of experience seeing that these cars are much slower, but it seems like it will be a different kind of exciting. There just seems to be so much hype about the engineering behind the car? I've also heard there will be very limited numbers produced which is another bonus. I don't know too much about this new car so any pointers on the pros and cons or anything else worth knowing would be nice. What would you guys do in this situation?

03-21-2012, 08:47 PM	#5
miata Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 2006 Miata 5 spd Location: wa Posts: 300 Thanks: 5 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Get a FRS and start autocrossing. You won't miss the 335i. __________________ 2006 Miata

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MRZ415 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2010 VW Golf TDI (DSG) Location: San Francisco Posts: 339 Thanks: 41 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Unless your about to cross into 40K miles ... stay with the 335i a bit longer till you see RELEASE series 1.0 ... its got to come with some sort of body kit if NOT the TRD one ... and it may even get the HID lights (before they start selling those as an added option) __________________

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