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DrunkenMime · 02-19-2010, 01:43 PM

How about the option to downgrade the wheels (credit like $900 or however much the stock wheels and tires cost) and ship track models with cheap steelies in a 15"x6" or 16"x6" (depending on the brake size) so we can slap the wheels of our choice on the car once we make our purchase?

What do you guys think?

RegisBou · 02-19-2010, 02:13 PM

Love the idea man. I already made a thread asking what the probable rim width would be in the case that we get steelies

Bump for this thread!

ack154 · 02-19-2010, 02:29 PM

The idea is awesome... but the reality will probably be they will try to bundle it with some other "track" package or something. And that honestly could go either way. It might be all awesome things that people want to have (a la Genesis Track Package - LSD, Brembos, etc)... or it might be just a bunch of stupid things to make it a package and then wouldn't be worth it.

Biggie™ · 02-19-2010, 02:33 PM

That's how the EVO RS came in Japan... Steel wheels, no radio, no power anything, light weight aluminum roof.

Anyway... If the FT comes with 15s I want a credit for the crappy brakes that fit under them!

CyberFormula · 02-19-2010, 03:06 PM

Steelies good....but i hope it would offset the cost of the car enough for me to get good aftermarket rims.

Yuanrang · 02-19-2010, 04:04 PM

The reason that I voted no is because I will most likely be mounting all-season tires on the wheels that come with the car and purchasing an aftermarket set of wheels to put summer tires on. It's generally a good idea in climates where you get snow in the winter, me thinks.

Midship Runabout · 02-19-2010, 04:32 PM

really depends on how much it would save and how bad the factory alloys look.. i really dont like the OEM wheels that keep being shown.

DrunkenMime · 02-22-2010, 05:14 PM

I agree...the wheels on the concept have to go but it really doesn't matter to me. I would change the wheels right away.

I also agree with the tiny brakes that would have to fit under 15's which is why I think if it were done, it would be 16's minimum. Alloys are probably $1500-2000 for stocks with stock tires maybe? Steelies would be worth maybe $300?? the corresponding tires maybe $300-400 or so? So if they credited us $1000 for steelies and the smaller tires, I'd take it.

I live in San Diego so weather isn't an issue for me but I understand how some people would like to have a winter and summer set. They could then opt for the alloy option.

ichitaka05 · 02-22-2010, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yuanrang

The reason that I voted no is because I will most likely be mounting all-season tires on the wheels that come with the car and purchasing an aftermarket set of wheels to put summer tires on. It's generally a good idea in climates where you get snow in the winter, me thinks.

me agree.

DrunkenMime · 02-22-2010, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yuanrang

The reason that I voted no is because I will most likely be mounting all-season tires on the wheels that come with the car and purchasing an aftermarket set of wheels to put summer tires on. It's generally a good idea in climates where you get snow in the winter, me thinks.

That's why I think having cheap steelies would be an option only on the track model where the standard models (including track) would come with stock alloys...it's a win win if you ask me...

Biggie™ · 02-22-2010, 07:00 PM

In 2004 the EVO came in 2 trims... The RS was a stripped down version that was also much more affordable while still having the same powertrain and brembo brakes.

EVO VIII RS: $26,799 msrp
Standard EVO VIII: $29,999 msrp

Toyota could do something similar, with similar differences in price.

TheStig · 02-22-2010, 10:13 PM

Are you serious? This is the stupidest idea ever, who the fuck still wants steelies on there car

Matador · 02-22-2010, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheStig

Are you serious? This is the stupidest idea ever, who the fuck still wants steelies on there car

Maybe someone who won't keep the factory alloys anyway?

p.s. "Their" car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biggie™

That's how the EVO RS came in Japan... Steel wheels, no radio, no power anything, light weight aluminum roof.

Anyway... If the FT comes with 15s I want a credit for the crappy brakes that fit under them!

Agreed. Really don't want any wheel size that would necessitate shitty brakes unless Enough comes of to buy some decent ones to replace em.

DrunkenMime · 02-22-2010, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheStig

Are you serious? This is the stupidest idea ever, who the fuck still wants steelies on there car

are you retarded?? read my post very carefully. Most enthusiasts change their wheels anyway so why pay more for wheels you don't want?

Midship Runabout · 02-22-2010, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

X2 double slap.

Nemesis · 02-22-2010, 11:18 PM

I love the concept rims, I can see where steelies would make sense for some, but I .prefer to get the rims from the factory. Factory rims run smoother then rims purchased afterwards. It always seems that the local tire guys can't balance rims after about 65-70mph. The best I have ever seen was 80mph. When I first purchased my Sky Redline, it would run up to 120 before giving me any balance feedback. I would rather have nice factory rims, even if their benefit is only for the first 35000miles....

Midship Runabout · 02-22-2010, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nemesis

I love the concept rims, I can see where steelies would make sense for some, but I .prefer to get the rims from the factory. Factory rims run smoother then rims purchased afterwards. It always seems that the local tire guys can't balance rims after about 65-70mph. The best I have ever seen was 80mph. When I first purchased my Sky Redline, it would run up to 120 before giving me any balance feedback. I would rather have nice factory rims, even if their benefit is only for the first 35000miles....

Probably cause the factory uses a road force balancer not like the smaller shops that have balancers that only can do static and dynamic type of balance.

Matador · 02-22-2010, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nemesis

I love the concept rims, I can see where steelies would make sense for some, but I .prefer to get the rims from the factory. Factory rims run smoother then rims purchased afterwards. It always seems that the local tire guys can't balance rims after about 65-70mph. The best I have ever seen was 80mph. When I first purchased my Sky Redline, it would run up to 120 before giving me any balance feedback. I would rather have nice factory rims, even if their benefit is only for the first 35000miles....

I want the rims from the FT-HS. Pure sex

Slide · 02-23-2010, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrunkenMime

are you retarded?? read my post very carefully. Most enthusiasts change their wheels anyway so why pay more for wheels you don't want?

read origialan post.. you will get money back or pay less if u chose for the steel wheels no cost you extra..

So read before post next time!

Lexicon101 · 02-23-2010, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slide

read origialan post.. you will get money back or pay less if u chose for the steel wheels no cost you extra..

So read before post next time!

Hypocrit.
Read before you post next time.

ichitaka05 · 02-23-2010, 05:34 AM

Deja vu? lol

DrunkenMime · 02-23-2010, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lexicon101

Hypocrit.
Read before you post next time.

Thanks Lex

View Poll Results: Credit for steelies on track models so you can buy your own lightweight wheels?
Hell yes!	30	33.71%
Depends on how much they credit me for the steelies vs. alloys	34	38.20%
Nah, I don't care	25	28.09%
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02-19-2010, 01:43 PM	#1
DrunkenMime Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Drives: IS300 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 161 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Suggestion to Toyota: Cheap steelies on a track model How about the option to downgrade the wheels (credit like $900 or however much the stock wheels and tires cost) and ship track models with cheap steelies in a 15"x6" or 16"x6" (depending on the brake size) so we can slap the wheels of our choice on the car once we make our purchase? What do you guys think?

02-19-2010, 02:33 PM	#4
Biggie™ Stassenkämpfer Join Date: Jan 2010 Drives: '08 xB '07 Yaris '06 EVO9 '89 240SX Location: Miller Motorsports Park Posts: 79 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	That's how the EVO RS came in Japan... Steel wheels, no radio, no power anything, light weight aluminum roof. Anyway... If the FT comes with 15s I want a credit for the crappy brakes that fit under them! __________________

02-19-2010, 04:04 PM	#6
Yuanrang Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: '96 AE102 Location: Bel Air, MD Posts: 59 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The reason that I voted no is because I will most likely be mounting all-season tires on the wheels that come with the car and purchasing an aftermarket set of wheels to put summer tires on. It's generally a good idea in climates where you get snow in the winter, me thinks. __________________

02-22-2010, 07:00 PM	#11
Biggie™ Stassenkämpfer Join Date: Jan 2010 Drives: '08 xB '07 Yaris '06 EVO9 '89 240SX Location: Miller Motorsports Park Posts: 79 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	In 2004 the EVO came in 2 trims... The RS was a stripped down version that was also much more affordable while still having the same powertrain and brembo brakes. EVO VIII RS: $26,799 msrp Standard EVO VIII: $29,999 msrp Toyota could do something similar, with similar differences in price. __________________

02-19-2010, 02:13 PM	#2
RegisBou Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Drives: Scion xA, Toyota MkI Mr2 (Sold) Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 171 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Love the idea man. I already made a thread asking what the probable rim width would be in the case that we get steelies Bump for this thread!

02-19-2010, 02:29 PM	#3
ack154 New Subaru Owner Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 2011 Subaru WRX Location: NY Posts: 62 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The idea is awesome... but the reality will probably be they will try to bundle it with some other "track" package or something. And that honestly could go either way. It might be all awesome things that people want to have (a la Genesis Track Package - LSD, Brembos, etc)... or it might be just a bunch of stupid things to make it a package and then wouldn't be worth it.

02-19-2010, 03:06 PM	#5
CyberFormula Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Drives: gti, nsx, integra type r,porsche911 Location: garage Posts: 478 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Steelies good....but i hope it would offset the cost of the car enough for me to get good aftermarket rims.

02-19-2010, 04:32 PM	#7
Midship Runabout formerly Dixie Normous Join Date: Jan 2010 Drives: The ladies wild! Location: ())_)CRAYOLA)_))> Posts: 996 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	really depends on how much it would save and how bad the factory alloys look.. i really dont like the OEM wheels that keep being shown.

02-22-2010, 05:14 PM	#8
DrunkenMime Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Drives: IS300 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 161 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I agree...the wheels on the concept have to go but it really doesn't matter to me. I would change the wheels right away. I also agree with the tiny brakes that would have to fit under 15's which is why I think if it were done, it would be 16's minimum. Alloys are probably $1500-2000 for stocks with stock tires maybe? Steelies would be worth maybe $300?? the corresponding tires maybe $300-400 or so? So if they credited us $1000 for steelies and the smaller tires, I'd take it. I live in San Diego so weather isn't an issue for me but I understand how some people would like to have a winter and summer set. They could then opt for the alloy option.

02-22-2010, 10:13 PM	#12
TheStig Something Clever Join Date: Feb 2010 Drives: 2009 BMW 135i, 2006 Civic (Beater) Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Are you serious? This is the stupidest idea ever, who the fuck still wants steelies on there car

02-22-2010, 11:18 PM	#16
Nemesis Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Drives: BMW 335i coupe w/ man.6 spd Location: US Posts: 99 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I love the concept rims, I can see where steelies would make sense for some, but I .prefer to get the rims from the factory. Factory rims run smoother then rims purchased afterwards. It always seems that the local tire guys can't balance rims after about 65-70mph. The best I have ever seen was 80mph. When I first purchased my Sky Redline, it would run up to 120 before giving me any balance feedback. I would rather have nice factory rims, even if their benefit is only for the first 35000miles....

02-23-2010, 05:34 AM	#21
ichitaka05 Site Moderator Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: '00 Subaru 2.5RS Location: Middle of No where Posts: 9,329 Thanks: 1,026 Thanked 3,387 Times in 1,567 Posts Mentioned: 84 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Deja vu? lol __________________

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