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Old 05-29-2013, 08:11 AM   #1
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Old 05-29-2013, 09:36 AM   #2
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Not hard to disagree with the review as its pretty much spot on.

Perfect balance here would be to save the money on the pointless TRD cosmetic crap upgrades and get a base model. You could spend less than half of that 6500 of TRD upgrades on things like intake, exhaust, and tune (or maybe even lighter wheels+tires and tune) to get a decent boost in performance.
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Old 05-29-2013, 09:44 AM   #3
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Anyone that would pay 30k pounds for a GT86 is off their rocker!
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I love that Porsche's new front end
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I love it that they used the same word to describe the TRD package as I did...

pointless.

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The 'not-so-secret-sauce' would be to install BRZ OEM rear springs in the GT86 and re-test. Or just throw a BRZ out there to see how the comparisons would change, if at all...

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Why are 0 to 60 times all over the plase for the FRS? This says 7.7 seconds. I have seen all the way down to 6. Wtf?
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Old 05-29-2013, 11:29 AM   #8
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Shouldn't this be in "vs." ?
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well at least the fr-s is prettier then the porsche
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I like this guy's opinion of our car......

Really I don't care about all these our people saying this and that about the FR-S/BRZ i'm happy with my bang for the buck ride.


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Old 05-29-2013, 01:41 PM   #11
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Just the fact that my $27k car is compared to a Porsche regularly makes me happy about my car purchase. It's not as fast, but for the money, you really can't beat the combination of a perfect daily with amazing performance.
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"...were an orgy of oversteer..."

awesomely put lol
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Clever title, not so clever if it happened literally.... good read though.
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Finally the comparison against the base Cayman, and not the Cayman "S".
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Old 05-29-2013, 04:09 PM   #15
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This makes me think an 'STI' model might simply be upgraded brakes, wheels, and other body bits rather than a boosted version of the BRZ. Don't get your hopes up kids and you won't be disappointed next year.
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I have no problem losing in a close comparison to the Cayman (or even the S2000 for that matter), but I didn't like that FRS vs Miata comparison where the Miate edged out the twin:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...n/viewall.html
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I have no problem losing in a close comparison to the Cayman (or even the S2000 for that matter), but I didn't like that FRS vs Miata comparison where the Miate edged out the twin:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...n/viewall.html
I think their comparison was pretty spot on.

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Ultimately, the FR-S is the better driver's tool, while the Miata is the better driver's toy.
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I have no problem losing in a close comparison to the Cayman (or even the S2000 for that matter), but I didn't like that FRS vs Miata comparison where the Miate edged out the twin:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...n/viewall.html
why not? if youre happy with your car it shouldnt really matter what other people think of other cars in comparison.

i think its super cool that they finally compared the car to the non s but i think the lack of a diff is a little bit confusing, especially if this is a comparison about feel and behavior.
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I think the base Cayman's engine is what I wish the FR-S had standard. Between 2.5-3.0 liters would be perfect!
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They should have tested a 'base' GT-saving 20-30kg(if the UK version gets it there) with wider(235) and stickier tyres and some lightweight(RPF1) wheels instead of getting that TRD crap :P
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