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Old 02-09-2010, 01:54 PM   #1
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Exclamation Report: Toyota chooses alternative Toyota FT-86 design (by Calty studio)!

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Publication Holiday Autos is reporting that the original FT-86 design that we've seen at the 2009 Tokyo Motor Show and the 2010 Tokyo Auto Salon (designed by Toyota's Europe Design Development EDē) has been passed up by Toyota in favor of the alternative design by Toyota's North American design studio (Calty Design Research). Calty's FT-86 version (which we've yet to see in person except for the sketch below) has been picked over the EDē design and another design by Toyota's Japanese design team (Toyota Technical Center).

Reportedly, the EDē design was rejected November of last year, the month following the original debut of the FT-86 at the 2009 Tokyo Motor Show. The selection then came down to the designs by Calty and Toyota Technical Center, with Calty's design winning out.

It's being reported that the basic elements of the FT-86 in its new form are all ready, with the exception of a few minor items which will be finalized in March. The new Calty designed FT-86 will have less aggressively carved and curved surfaces, will feature increased overhangs (boo!), and have a higher front fascia (in all likelihood to meet current pedestrian safety requirements. Wheelbase and physical dimensions have not changed. As for the Subaru version of the FT-86, it will not differ from the Toyota version as much as previously reported. Expect only badge and option differences.

We're not sure what to make of this rumor yet as we absolutely adore the FT-86 design that we have all seen in the two Tokyo car shows. The FT-86 design has been an absolute hit and it would take another knockout design to match its sharp, unique, and emotional design. However, do keep in mind that Calty was the studio responsible for the stunning FT-HS concept, so we will reserve judgment for the new FT-86 design (if there indeed is one) until we see it! There may be hope yet!
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Eww, a higher profile with increased overhang. Just eww. Granted, we'll need to see how it officially comes out but damn, the concept was perfect. No need to change it.
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Old 02-09-2010, 02:32 PM   #3
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Not over the moon about that, but it's still a long way from being finalised as that pic demonstrates.

Wait and see I think.
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Cant say im out, just very curious to how its going to look... I think im still in FTW!
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Man if its as ugly as the picture im gonna pass for something else.
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i prefer sharp edges over curved ones for an aggressive look.. but curves make a car look sexy... i have mixed feelings about this.. the original look already grew on me
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I was going to write in another thread that i think the low ft86 nose would not make it into production -> because of pedestrian safety the noses of cars went higher and higher the last years. Hate that

We will have to wait...
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That's disappointing, I thought the design by Toyota Europe Design Development was already 'production ready' but I guess not! Anyhow I can't wait for Calty's design! Especially since they were responsible for the design of the FT-HS (which kind of gave spawn to the FT-86 in a way) as well as others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calty_Design_Research

As for the picture, I don't think we need to get all hyped and ready to leave because we don't like the lines. If you think about, we don't even know if that picture was EVEN made by Calty or anyone from Toyota at all! If could be just a fan boy/girl who's good at Photoshopping! So please don't fight over a car that hasn't even been made for production yet (minus the FT-86 concept and G-sport concept that was made).

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the "carbon fiber" under the head lights make the car look like a panda bear
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to be honest, the hood and front end just look too much like my wife's 2001 prius....great car, but not a head turner.....
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say it ain't so!!!

that overhang would be the biggest turn-off to me compared to the Tokyo concept.
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say it ain't so!!!
Your drug is a heartbreaker?

Edit: Aww, come on hachiroku, I totally had a valid point going on that one post.
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to be honest, the hood and front end just look too much like my wife's 2001 prius....great car, but not a head turner.....
Exact same thing I thought... BLECH... I'm leaning more and more toward just buying an STi...
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Holiday Auto is a Japanese car mag that, much like Best Car Magazine, often reports made up rumors. However, these mags do get their scoops right every once in a while. i personally am not thrilled about the idea and hope they release it as close to the concept as possible.

ps: calty is also the studio that designed the last gen celica. their designs are hit and miss at best.
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WTF???

Well, on the bright side, Calty also deigned the last gen Celica, which was a pretty hot design, so it's not as if this will be a fugly turd...

Looking forward to seeing this thing already...
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Holiday Auto is a Japanese car mag that, much like Best Car Magazine, often reports made up rumors. However, these mags do get their scoops right every once in a while. i personally am not thrilled about the idea and hope they release it as close to the concept as possible.

ps: calty is also the studio that designed the last gen celica. their designs are hit and miss at best.
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Eww, a higher profile with increased overhang. Just eww. Granted, we'll need to see how it officially comes out but damn, the concept was perfect. No need to change it.

ED2 design for the win. I'll wait and see what Calty has to offer, but so far I think the ED2 design is perfect as is (It even draws heavily on Calty's FT-HS design). That outline is not confidence inspiring.
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I have my doubts about this being true. I mean why would Toyota go to all the trouble and cost to put out a physical concept car based on the ED2 design, have it very well received, only to kill the design and go with another one?

Wouldn't they have already gone through this design selection process before putting any FT-86 concept car out there? If true though, what they did was completely backwards.
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everybody keeps saying they hope they keep it as close to the concept design as possible but already we have two DIFFERENT concepts: the one from the european arm and the G-sport which has totally different front end body work. Which concept are you talking about?? There are supposed to be two different concepts we haven't even seen yet so i don't think everyone should begin tying themselves to just one idea yet. It's WAY too early in development. This thing will change quite a bit I'm guessing....
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WTF???

Well, on the bright side, Calty also deigned the last gen Celica, which was a pretty hot design, so it's not as if this will be a fugly turd...

Looking forward to seeing this thing already...
i hated the last gen celica look lol.

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everybody keeps saying they hope they keep it as close to the concept design as possible but already we have two DIFFERENT concepts: the one from the european arm and the G-sport which has totally different front end body work. Which concept are you talking about?? There are supposed to be two different concepts we haven't even seen yet so i don't think everyone should begin tying themselves to just one idea yet. It's WAY too early in development. This thing will change quite a bit I'm guessing....
The G sport isn't that big of a difference from the standard FT86. Not only that, it's labeled at "G-Sport". They weren't saying that concept would be labeled as the standard Ft86. This rumor however is saying the standard Ft86 is being changed from the original plan.


I'm hoping the production doesn't come out anywhere near the way that picture looks. The front bumper makes it look like an eclipse.
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I'm not so crazy about all this but will see, I'm not closing the door yet on the FT86 as far as I know calty designed the FT-HS concept, venza and the scion chassis

here is the FT-HS back in 2008
http://www.notcot.com/archives/2008/...as_calty_d.php
http://www.core77.com/blog/business/...ning_11167.asp
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http://www.notcot.com/archives/2008/...a_calty_de.php
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i hated the last gen celica look lol.
same here that thing is butt ugly.
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