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Vegas Racing · 04-11-2013, 06:55 PM

I came across this piece yesterday. Supposedly they were just released yesterday. Its the Borla 60541 cat delete mid pipe, the blog said it was 6.7lbs and should be good for a few HP. Think I might pick one up here to go with my borla catback and future headers.

Thoughts? Is it gonna throw a CEL?

mxsled · 04-11-2013, 06:59 PM

no cel....the two o2 sensors are in the manifold

Vegas Racing · 04-11-2013, 08:23 PM

Man looks like I need to get under there again and poke around.

Apoc · 04-11-2013, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas Racing

I came across this piece yesterday. Supposedly they were just released yesterday. Its the Borla 60541 cat delete mid pipe, the blog said it was 6.7lbs and should be good for a few HP. Think I might pick one up here to go with my borla catback and future headers.

Thoughts? Is it gonna throw a CEL?

I didn't have a cat on my stock mid pipe only a resonator.

mad_sb · 04-11-2013, 11:17 PM

he is talking about the front pipe. the front pipe has both a 2ndary cat and a funky looking muffler in it. the midpipe is already replaced with his borla catback.

to the OP, if you remove all the cats and don't at least run a resonated front pipe... it is going to be loud and raspy as heck.

Apoc · 04-11-2013, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mad_sb

he is talking about the front pipe. the front pipe has both a 2ndary cat and a funky looking muffler in it. the midpipe is already replaced with his borla catback.

to the OP, if you remove all the cats and don't at least run a resonated front pipe... it is going to be loud and raspy as heck.

That pic is of Borla's midpipe. The front pipe would need a hanger to match the OEM front pipe, wouldn't be that long and needs to have a bend up too meet the overpipe.

http://blog.perrinperformance.com/wp...st-diagram.jpg

LavosTRD · 04-12-2013, 05:02 PM

Its probably warped too...

Trashed675 · 04-12-2013, 08:28 PM

Ordered mine today from ft86speedfactory along with the borla catback from amazon. I'll post back when its all put on a ready to go in a week or so.

FT86RGV · 04-12-2013, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Apoc

That pic is of Borla's midpipe. The front pipe would need a hanger to match the OEM front pipe, wouldn't be that long and needs to have a bend up too meet the overpipe.

http://blog.perrinperformance.com/wp...st-diagram.jpg

I actually think it might be the front pipe and over pipe combined. The donut gasket looks like it fits onto this pipe like the stock front pipe. Plus as was stated earlier their catback already replaces the stock midpipe.

Trashed675 · 04-12-2013, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by FT86RGV

I actually think it might be the front pipe and over pipe combined. The donut gasket looks like it fits onto this pipe like the stock front pipe. Plus as was stated earlier their catback already replaces the stock midpipe.

I think you are correct. If you look at ft86speedfactory's website, it lists front pipes and over pipes as the same part.

Huehuecoyotl · 04-12-2013, 11:47 PM

once you go header, the 2 cats make it liveable, without that 2nd cat, its gonna be track car loud

Trashed675 · 04-17-2013, 02:10 PM

Just an FYI for anybody thinking about getting this pipe. According to ft86speedfactory, borla is about 3 weeks out from shipping.

frslee · 04-17-2013, 02:18 PM

is anyone running high flow cat or cat-less on a stock exhaust?

Trashed675 · 04-17-2013, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by frslee

is anyone running high flow cat or cat-less on a stock exhaust?

There wouldn't really be much benefit from that, so i doubt it. You might see 1hp if youre lucky.

04-11-2013, 06:55 PM	#1
Vegas Racing Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: BRZ Location: Las Vegas Posts: 31 Thanks: 126 Thanked 10 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Borla Catless Midpipe? I came across this piece yesterday. Supposedly they were just released yesterday. Its the Borla 60541 cat delete mid pipe, the blog said it was 6.7lbs and should be good for a few HP. Think I might pick one up here to go with my borla catback and future headers. Thoughts? Is it gonna throw a CEL?

04-11-2013, 06:59 PM	#2
mxsled Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Audi A3 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 163 Thanks: 193 Thanked 99 Times in 54 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	no cel....the two o2 sensors are in the manifold Last edited by mxsled; 04-11-2013 at 07:19 PM.

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mad_sb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: 2013 Asphalt FR-S Location: Orange County Posts: 1,639 Thanks: 632 Thanked 982 Times in 537 Posts Mentioned: 100 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	he is talking about the front pipe. the front pipe has both a 2ndary cat and a funky looking muffler in it. the midpipe is already replaced with his borla catback. to the OP, if you remove all the cats and don't at least run a resonated front pipe... it is going to be loud and raspy as heck. __________________ ~Namaste~ 2013 Asphalt FRS

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