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A Gomez · 01-04-2012, 10:32 PM

Only for 86

RC: 1.99 M Yen (about $25K)
G: 2.41 M Yen (about $31K)
GT: 2.79M Yen (about $35K) -> This is roughly an FR-S mono spec equivalent
GT Limited: 2.97M Yen (about $37K)

Hope this is not an indication of a sticker shock in the US.

http://www.njd.jp/topNews/dt/3031/

Snoopyalien24 · 01-04-2012, 10:36 PM

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoooooaaaaa.

wut? No way, nah, can't be

vaporiz · 01-04-2012, 10:37 PM

umm are these prices going to translate directly to the U.S. market?

ayau · 01-04-2012, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vaporiz

umm are these prices going to translate directly to the U.S. market?

Nope. These prices don't mean anything for the US market.

ahausheer · 01-04-2012, 10:38 PM

Compare other cars in Japan vs exchange rate vs price in america.

2fast4you · 01-04-2012, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Gomez

Hope this is not an indication of a sticker shock in the US.

It's not. There are many factors that decide pricing in Japan such as taxes, demand, maintaining exclusivity, etc.

ayau · 01-04-2012, 10:43 PM

If anything, it's an indication of the 86 releasing soon in Japan. If the US market has the same release date, then you can expect prices for the BRZ/FR-S as well, possibly at the Detroit Auto Show in mid January.

Nardi330 · 01-04-2012, 10:44 PM

not looking good for us Aussies...

A Gomez · 01-04-2012, 10:48 PM

Cars will be available from April in Japan and they will start taking orders in February.

Future · 01-04-2012, 10:53 PM

Well... for example (couldn't find any with Toyota sorry)... the CR-Z sells for roughly 2.25M¥ in japan... in USA = 19600$USD

so if 2.25M yen = 19,600$USD, this means the GT (2.79M) would sell approx @ 24,300$USD, but as we all know, cars in japan are more expensive than in usa... so you could probably take 2-3k off easily... I'm saying 21K for FR-S in the states... 23,500$ in Canada

This is by no mean a scientific/marketing oriented calculation, but could be not so far from reality...

switchlanez · 01-04-2012, 11:05 PM

Lol just this morning in another thread I posted it would be around $30,000 ballpark.

poormans_LFA · 01-04-2012, 11:06 PM

no need to create hysteria over prices that will have nothing to do w/ those set here in the U.S.

pastuch · 01-04-2012, 11:27 PM

This whole thread is largely meaningless as a predictor for North American pricing. The problem is the giant hikes in Yen value have made Toyotas far more expensive in Japan.

2012 Toyota Camry Hybrid LE
USA: $25900

Canada: $26900 (Canadians should be writing thank you letters to Toyota for not raping us like every other fucking car company!)

Japan: 3.04 million yen (Equates to 39,619.20 USD)

Great article about Toyota's sales forecast for 2012 and why it's going to be a huge challenge:
http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2...de-in-the-u-s/

switchlanez · 01-04-2012, 11:32 PM

May not be US prices but definitely related through some formuals/variables. Maybe someone knowledgeable in import/export can shed light?

Edit: Above post helps, thanks.

chessplaya2010 · 01-04-2012, 11:32 PM

RC: 1.99 M Yen (about $25K) <--- what's an RC ?
G: 2.41 M Yen (about $31K) <--- what's a G

GT: 2.79M Yen (about $35K) -> This is roughly an FR-S mono spec equivalent
GT Limited: 2.97M Yen (about $37K)

just wondering what the difference could be between all of these....

2fast4you · 01-04-2012, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chessplaya2010

RC: 1.99 M Yen (about $25K) <--- what's an RC ?
G: 2.41 M Yen (about $31K) <--- what's a G

I'm guessing the G is the "Low Spec" w/16" wheels, no leather steering wheel, black gauge face, two speaker audio system, etc. The RC would be stripped down with primer bumpers and steelies.

DavidGaddy · 01-04-2012, 11:40 PM

It better not be if so I will just keep my Lexus

86'd · 01-04-2012, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Future

Well... for example (couldn't find any with Toyota sorry)... the CR-Z sells for roughly 2.25M¥ in japan... in USA = 19600$USD

so if 2.25M yen = 19,600$USD, this means the GT (2.79M) would sell approx @ 24,300$USD, but as we all know, cars in japan are more expensive than in usa... so you could probably take 2-3k off easily... I'm saying 21K for FR-S in the states... 23,500$ in Canada

This is by no mean a scientific/marketing oriented calculation, but could be not so far from reality...

By using your math (Yen x .0087) the RC version (I'm guessing the one with steel wheels) if sold here would be a bit over 17k lol.

21K for this car is way too low. While the "conversion" price of 24,300k seems a little bit too high for the US market. $23,990 just sounds better.

There's no way (other than dealer markup) that the MSRP on the base Scion will be over 25k.

ahausheer · 01-05-2012, 12:10 AM

If these numbers include Japanese car tax, this translates to about 22,000 USD for the ''GT mono spec''. This would slot in well just above the TC. Japanese car tax should increase prices approx 40 percent, on top of this, Scion models in Japan are 1.1-1.3 times more expensive before tax than their American counterparts. So 2.79 million yen becomes 2 mill before tax, and 1.7 mil after the ''country factor''. 1.7 million yen then becomes about 22,000 USD. I think its safe to assume 21 - 23K starting price in America.

NorCalRider · 01-05-2012, 12:20 AM

The good news is that pricing is starting to show up so we should know US pricing on the 9th. It would be interesting to know what each versions specs are.

Caliban · 01-05-2012, 12:22 AM

Im gonna say FR-S in the range of $22-25k tops for US Market.

Repyt · 01-05-2012, 12:26 AM

I hope you guys are right... I feel like if they get the pricing wrong on this car it will fail... I hope that doesn't happen!

01-04-2012, 10:32 PM	#1
A Gomez Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Celica Location: USA Posts: 143 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Price information officially released in Japan Only for 86 RC: 1.99 M Yen (about $25K) G: 2.41 M Yen (about $31K) GT: 2.79M Yen (about $35K) -> This is roughly an FR-S mono spec equivalent GT Limited: 2.97M Yen (about $37K) Hope this is not an indication of a sticker shock in the US. http://www.njd.jp/topNews/dt/3031/

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ahausheer Re-member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Toyota Sorara Location: South CA Posts: 986 Thanks: 96 Thanked 266 Times in 139 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Compare other cars in Japan vs exchange rate vs price in america. __________________ Nothing decays like progress, and nothing preserves like neglect.

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switchlanez The Male Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: Yes Location: A particular place or position. Posts: 2,406 Thanks: 478 Thanked 1,280 Times in 526 Posts Mentioned: 58 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Lol just this morning in another thread I posted it would be around $30,000 ballpark. __________________ "This isn’t about specifications or numbers but a cultural phenomenon." -Moto-P

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switchlanez The Male Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: Yes Location: A particular place or position. Posts: 2,406 Thanks: 478 Thanked 1,280 Times in 526 Posts Mentioned: 58 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	May not be US prices but definitely related through some formuals/variables. Maybe someone knowledgeable in import/export can shed light? Edit: Above post helps, thanks. __________________ "This isn’t about specifications or numbers but a cultural phenomenon." -Moto-P

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vaporiz Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: 350z Location: CA Posts: 141 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	umm are these prices going to translate directly to the U.S. market?

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ayau Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2013 Subaru BRZ Location: Apex City Posts: 1,826 Thanks: 194 Thanked 607 Times in 283 Posts Mentioned: 22 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If anything, it's an indication of the 86 releasing soon in Japan. If the US market has the same release date, then you can expect prices for the BRZ/FR-S as well, possibly at the Detroit Auto Show in mid January.

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Nardi330 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Drives: 86 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 2,051 Thanks: 255 Thanked 325 Times in 229 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	not looking good for us Aussies...

01-04-2012, 10:48 PM	#9
A Gomez Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Celica Location: USA Posts: 143 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Cars will be available from April in Japan and they will start taking orders in February.

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Future Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: BRZ! Location: Earth Posts: 346 Thanks: 65 Thanked 52 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Well... for example (couldn't find any with Toyota sorry)... the CR-Z sells for roughly 2.25M¥ in japan... in USA = 19600$USD so if 2.25M yen = 19,600$USD, this means the GT (2.79M) would sell approx @ 24,300$USD, but as we all know, cars in japan are more expensive than in usa... so you could probably take 2-3k off easily... I'm saying 21K for FR-S in the states... 23,500$ in Canada This is by no mean a scientific/marketing oriented calculation, but could be not so far from reality...

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pastuch Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: 2013 BRZ Location: Ottawa Ontario Posts: 460 Thanks: 9 Thanked 21 Times in 17 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	This whole thread is largely meaningless as a predictor for North American pricing. The problem is the giant hikes in Yen value have made Toyotas far more expensive in Japan. 2012 Toyota Camry Hybrid LE USA: $25900 Canada: $26900 (Canadians should be writing thank you letters to Toyota for not raping us like every other fucking car company!) Japan: 3.04 million yen (Equates to 39,619.20 USD) Great article about Toyota's sales forecast for 2012 and why it's going to be a huge challenge: http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2...de-in-the-u-s/

01-04-2012, 11:32 PM	#15
chessplaya2010 Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Scion Tc Location: USA Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	RC: 1.99 M Yen (about $25K) <--- what's an RC ? G: 2.41 M Yen (about $31K) <--- what's a G GT: 2.79M Yen (about $35K) -> This is roughly an FR-S mono spec equivalent GT Limited: 2.97M Yen (about $37K) just wondering what the difference could be between all of these....

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DavidGaddy Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2007 Lexus IS250 Location: Greenville NC Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It better not be if so I will just keep my Lexus

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ahausheer Re-member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Toyota Sorara Location: South CA Posts: 986 Thanks: 96 Thanked 266 Times in 139 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If these numbers include Japanese car tax, this translates to about 22,000 USD for the ''GT mono spec''. This would slot in well just above the TC. Japanese car tax should increase prices approx 40 percent, on top of this, Scion models in Japan are 1.1-1.3 times more expensive before tax than their American counterparts. So 2.79 million yen becomes 2 mill before tax, and 1.7 mil after the ''country factor''. 1.7 million yen then becomes about 22,000 USD. I think its safe to assume 21 - 23K starting price in America. __________________ Nothing decays like progress, and nothing preserves like neglect.

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01-05-2012, 12:20 AM	#20
NorCalRider Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2009 Toytoa Tacoma 4x4 Dbl Cab LB Location: Nor Cal Posts: 214 Thanks: 150 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The good news is that pricing is starting to show up so we should know US pricing on the 9th. It would be interesting to know what each versions specs are. __________________ 2013 SWP BRZ Limited(on order) 2012 Vw Jetta Sportwagen TDI 6mt Navi and Pano 2009 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 Double Cab Long Bed 1994 Honda Civic HB TurboCharged Track Car

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Repyt Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: Empty spot waiting to be filled... Location: AR for the moment... Posts: 69 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I hope you guys are right... I feel like if they get the pricing wrong on this car it will fail... I hope that doesn't happen!

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