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Old 11-27-2011, 09:52 AM   #1
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Updated: Toyota GT86 - facts from Japan (Handmade and only 1000 units/yr - DEBUNKED)

PLEASE NOTE - THE INFORMATION IS INCORRECT AND WAS THE RESULT OF A MISUNDERSTANDING. WE'VE LEFT IT HERE SO THAT NEW READERS CAN STILL UNDERSTAND THE MIX UP AND FOLLOW IT.

Hello all!

Im here in Japan and i've just been to the Fuji Speedway where i met the Chief Engineer and also witnessed the unveiling of the Toyota GT86 - Official Name.

The car is confimed for a worldwide release in April 2012.

The car will be limited to 1000 units per year only.

Each car i can confirm will be hand made.

The automatic gearbox is based on the LF-A gearbox which means it will be a very good box. I spoke to people who have driven both the manual and the automatic and tell me that its hard to choose between the two. But that they are both very very good.

Toyota are not making any profit from the 86 and the sale price will make them break even.

Im happy to answer any questions about the car and will be posting up pictures and videos right now.

I will be going to the Tokyo Motor Show on Wednesday were they will have a number of production models in different colours and spec - hopefully even a TRD GT86. I will sit in the car and take many detailed pictures for you all.

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Old 11-27-2011, 09:54 AM   #2
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Only 1000 units worldwide annually?
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Can you confirm the source of these facts please?

1000 units a year worldwide only!? Thats not alot..
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Navi: Toyota flew him to Japan for this so I'd guess that they are the source.

Still I find some of that hard to believe. Mainly the handmade and number of units. Toyota taking a loss or breaking even is easy to see based on r&d costs until a few model years in.

Completely handmade won't happen these days on a car like this. Engine hand built sure but moststuff will be done by robots.
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I can confirm that i got these figures directly from Toyota as i am here with them.

Today i was photographed with the cheif engineer AND the President of Toyota himself - Akio Toyoda.

Pictures will shortly follow.
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Leaky our man in Japan, it's good to hear from you.

1000 handmade units is a big undated!!!!

Keep up the good work Leeky. Drink some sake for all of us!
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Here is am with the Chief Engineer. More to follow, but thought i would get this picture up quick.

I also have video of the car to upload.
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Any word on a us price?
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Handmade and only 1000 units? No way man! I dont believe, actually i dont want to believe.

Handmade is never affordable, even if the price is break even with the costs.
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Hello all!

Im here in Japan and i've just been to the Fuji Speedway where i met the Chief Engineer and also witnessed the unveiling of the Toyota GT86 - Official Name.

The car is confimed for a worldwide release in April 2012.

The car will be limited to 1000 units per year only.

Each car i can confirm will be hand made.

The automatic gearbox is based on the LF-A gearbox which means it will be a very good box.

Toyota are not making any profit from the 86 and the sale price will make them break even.

Im happy to answer any questions about the car and will be posting up pictures and videos right now.

I will be going to the Tokyo Motor Show on Wednesday were they will have the production model. I will sit in the car and take many detailed pictures for you all.

Best Regards

Leeky
I don't believe it...but could be true...1000 a year for the 86....1000 a year for the FRS.....1000 a year for the BRZ....equals 3000 a year.

But what kills your story is that you said hand made...and LFA based automatic. The LFA has a single clutch gearbox not a real automatic like in the isf. The gearbox is based on the one in the isf not the LFA.
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Each car is hand made? ... im just clicking refresh to find out more on this page.
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As i said, i am here as a guest of Toyota Japan with the head of advertising. These are the details that they have given me through all the questions i have been throwing at them. Hand made did indeed throw me for a second, so i asked again "Hand made!?"...."Yes, each one"

They did not elaborate on this. I would assume the chassis/body is done via robots and the rest of the car is put together by hand. Otherwise i cant see how it'll cost as little as they say it will.

They have also confirmed NO TURBO - EVER.

I even asked whether TRD will do a Turbo or Supercharger kit and the word is NO.

You can see the pictures as im uploading them here - http://s1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff515/LeekyInJapan

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im about to cry

edit: just had a thought, toyota might only do 1k per year.. but subie might make tons and tons of them
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At 1000 units worldwide we will never be able to get this car. The waiting list will go out to 5 years! If its hand built the car is going to cost in the mid 30k range!
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have they told you what this "breaking even" price will be. This is the biggest question left for me a real confirmation on a Yen price
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As i said, i am here as a guest of Toyota Japan with the head of advertising. These are the details that they have given me through all the questions i have been throwing at them. Hand made did indeed throw me for a second, so i asked again "Hand made!?"...."Yes, each one"

They did not elaborate on this. I would assume the chassis/body is done via robots and the rest of the car is put together by hand. Otherwise i cant see how it'll cost as little as they say it will.

They have also confirmed NO TURBO - EVER.

I even asked whether TRD will do a Turbo or Supercharger kit and the word is NO.

... MY GOD. Hand made. This is some seriously off the hook news. I NEVER EVER EXPECTED THIS. Even is it's half hand built. Just insane. Refresh, refresh, refresh... keep them coming Leeky!
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Leeky, you're going to have to do do something for the good of all of us, you may involve taking hostage and torturing the CEO of a certain company.....
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Behind me you can see President of Toyota - Mr Akio Toyoda. He drove the car out to show the public and made an elaborate speech.


This is me with the heads of advertising. You can see Mount Fuji in the background.

Price will depend on country and it will vary. The only thing i can confirm is that the car will come out everywhere at the same time. They did give me a rough price for the Japanese market, but i have forgotten what this was. I can ask again on Wednesday if someone wants the Japan price. But i am free to be a Tourist for the next 2 days now until the Motorshow.
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As i said, i am here as a guest of Toyota Japan with the head of advertising. These are the details that they have given me through all the questions i have been throwing at them. Hand made did indeed throw me for a second, so i asked again "Hand made!?"...."Yes, each one"

They did not elaborate on this. I would assume the chassis/body is done via robots and the rest of the car is put together by hand. Otherwise i cant see how it'll cost as little as they say it will.

They have also confirmed NO TURBO - EVER.

I even asked whether TRD will do a Turbo or Supercharger kit and the word is NO.

You can see the pictures as im uploading them here - http://s1239.photobucket.com/upload/.../LeekyInJapan/
Your photobucket link does not work...
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They have also confirmed NO TURBO - EVER.

I even asked whether TRD will do a Turbo or Supercharger kit and the word is NO.

You can see the pictures as im uploading them here - http://s1239.photobucket.com/upload/.../LeekyInJapan/
Best news in the last 24 hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank god!

Assembling parts into the car by hand is normal as is some engine assembly so I could see that.
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http://s1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff515/LeekyInJapan

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