Toyota GT86 / Scion FR-S Convertible Rumored for Geneva Debut in March 2013

[whaap]

Yeah, I'm burned out on convertibles. My last three cars were soft tops.

[Turbowned]

Originally Posted by dori.

surprised the 'purists' that cry about the car being 'ruined' haven't shown up in the thread yet.

I say give the people more options.

Here I am! THEY'RE RUINING THIS CAR!!!

But seriously, zero f#%ks given about a convertible. Go ahead and build it; I don't have to buy it and I won't buy it!

[SUB-FT86]

I think the mx5 might be the better deal because a vert will add about 5k to msrp.

[tripjammer]

I would not buy the convertible version of the FR-S but they should build it and sell it. Scion needs a convertible, even if it's $2k to 5k more. I am thinking they can make it about $3k more and sell every one of them that they can build.

[ZetaVI]

I'd be more thrilled if they were bringing back the classic hatchback body we all know and love on the 86.

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by ZetaVI

I'd be more thrilled if they were bringing back the classic hatchback body we all know and love on the 86.

??? like this ???

[ZetaVI]

Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

??? like this ???

Yeah, I remember that pic long ago on the forum.

[xbladex0]

I think a hatch version would be good or you know how the supra mk4's trunk comes out? something like that.. yea...

[gmookher]

Originally Posted by Texas FR-S

Although I've owned an MX-5 in the very recent past, I'm not a big fan of convertibles... Though I wouldn't mind seeing the option for those who are interested.

That's cause it was a Mazda

[carbonBLUE]

Originally Posted by ZetaVI

Yeah, I remember that pic long ago on the forum.

Originally Posted by xbladex0

I think a hatch version would be good or you know how the supra mk4's trunk comes out? something like that.. yea...

having a sub 30k RWD hatch would dominate the market... i think only bmw makes a RWD hatch atm... I know a few of my mazda speed friends are waiting for a RWD hatch that doesnt have a BMW price tag

[azian_advanced]

soft top = ugly.
i'd rather they just introduce a removeable hardtop feature like they did in EDM/JDM MR-S... or maybe even just a sunroof on the current hardtops.

[Re~Mix]

Originally Posted by azian_advanced

soft top = ugly.
i'd rather they just introduce a removeable hardtop feature like they did in EDM/JDM MR-S... or maybe even just a sunroof on the current hardtops.

Targa top anyone!?

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by ZetaVI

I'd be more thrilled if they were bringing back the classic hatchback body we all know and love on the 86.

That body looked like shit IMO and as a matter of fact the AE86 didn't look like a sports car one bit other than the low slung front end. The rest of the car looked like a carved box which IMO is unfitting of a sports car. They could've still made the car a hatch with the current low-slung sports car styling. My RSX is a hatch without the weird looking back end.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

That body looked like shit IMO and as a matter of fact the AE86 didn't look like a sports car one bit other than the low slung front end. The rest of the car looked like a carved box which IMO is unfitting of a sports car. They could've still made the car a hatch with the current low-slung sports car styling. My RSX is a hatch without the weird looking back end.

i agree with you on that body. the ae86 wasnt a sports car. i think its important to remember on this forum. there is so much talk about the purity of the frs and its ae heritage yet in the same breath can talk down on other amazing cars because they were based on economy cars.

i usually dont like taking fixed roof coupes and making them convertibles. up until my first miata i thought verts were stupid all around. both my miatas have had hard tops but i cant express much fun driving around with the top down actually is. if you have an issue with convertibles (other than the amount of work needed to make them safe at a track) its due to image and insecurities and not the sport of driving.

[fistpoint]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

"in order to contain weight increases" "Weight gains are understood to be small"

Here we go; new model = heavier So much for the keep it simple keep it light mantra.

And it totally smacks in the face of moonroof lovers. We were told a moonroof would ruin the c.o.g., what the hell does this do to it?

[raul]

Although I don't support the idea, because typically folks who buy a convertible aren't the type of folks who care much about structural rigidity and weight (a.k.a non-enthusiasts), I understand it's a necessary evil to recoup some of the R&D on the car and make it profitable. I hope it doesn't tarnish the reputation of the car much. I can tell you that most of the convertibles will probably sell with an auto tranny.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by ZetaVI

Yeah, I remember that pic long ago on the forum.

If you remember these photochops, you know you have been here too damn long

On-topic
Vert is a interesting idea. I wonder what they need to do the keep the chassis stiff & how much more weight as coupe?

[merlin2111]

For everyone who is saying that convertible buyers are not enthusiasts please keep in mind that that the Miata is the 1# modified and raced car in the history of automobiles.

I have a soft top but I rock a hardtop 75% of the time. I love the idea of a soft top. I would take it off add the sway/struts to keep the rigidity and then get a sexy hard top for it. Most people who hate on convertibles have never driven a Miata. It is not a Mercedes or Lexus which gets sloppy as hell. It is a race car with the sky above your head.

[Texas FR-S]

Originally Posted by gmookher

That's cause it was a Mazda

Yup... Although I was very happy owning the MX-5 because it was a pure sports car developed as a convertible from ground up.

[whataboutbob]

Originally Posted by Re~Mix

Targa top anyone!?

^^ This.

[IntotheOcean]

This thought always makes me sad.
But people love soft tops... So might as well give them what they want.

[Surok]

whatever they make, ill buy one.

i like to have a complete set of toys