Singapore !!!

[sazu]

I think if 120k for the veloster not really worth it leh. Cos if I add a bit more, can get a 2.0L Honda civic. But looks wise, the veloster wins.

Anyone got any latest update/rumours from BM?

[renyeo]

Originally Posted by sazu

I think if 120k for the veloster not really worth it leh. Cos if I add a bit more, can get a 2.0L Honda civic. But looks wise, the veloster wins.

Anyone got any latest update/rumours from BM?

I am afraid Kah Motor has axed the 2.0- and 1.8-liter models from Civic's lineup. Singapore-bound '12 Civic now come in either 1.5-or 1.6-liter guise, the former being a hybrid-only variant. Prices for the nineth generation Civic starts from $118,000. First deliveries before CNY are likely.

Still, Euro Civic hatch with a turbocharged engine could be in the pipeline.

[Autumnkoup]

anyway... i feel that the FT86 or BRZ without TC is really a waste, they should have an option for TC... but i believe with the light weight, this ride is somebody.....

[EP3R]

Hi I'm from Australia and I don't understand why it's so expensive for you guys to buy cars in Singapore.

I've been to Singapore about 6 months ago for a holliday.And you guys have crazy nice cars

Is it to do with pollution, environment standards or is the government trying to screw the people.

Here in oz the car may cost about
$40,000* AUD + $2500 to insure,regostration,stamp duty.

TOTAL $42,500AUD on the road !!

*Car cost is a gestimate.

[sazu]

Hi EP3R, great to see an Australian on board ! U're from Melbuorne? I was there for 2 years. Stayed at Glenferrie. Very nice place u got there.

If you love cars, Singapore is definitely not the place to be, unless u're rich.

Basically the government's trying to control the number of cars on the road. Their so called "solution" is to to make car buyers buy Certificate Of Entitlement (COE). COE for a 2.0 litre car now costs about S$65k. So COE + a typical 2.0 litre Honda Civic today costs about S$135k.

That's not the end of the sad news. This COE is only valid for 10years. So if u want to keep the car for another 10 years, u got to buy another COE again.

..as to where this COE $$ go to, I think u can make a good guess

[EP3R]

Thanks sazu for filling me in on the info.

Come to australia and just live here.lol.

Nice house $500,000 in Melbourne ,Australia.
Car $40,000

Get your passports ready

Best news is the car will be yours for ever until you want so sell it.

[sazu]

I know EP3R. Affordable cars, affordable houses, friendly cashiers Very tempted to live there but I can't possibly leave my family behind

I'll definitely visit Melbourne again.

[EP3R]

So true

[Autumnkoup]

Hi EP3R, nice to see u here..... yes u r right and cars had indeed cut a gigantic hole in a lot of Singaporeans pockets.....

[sazu]

was at the gas station this morning & noticed an Evo Singapore magazine. On it's cover was a picture of the GT86 & above it was a print that captured my attention. It says sumthin like this " Rear Wheel Drive Thrill That Won't Break Your Bank".

Won't Break Your Bank? I'll believe it when I see it (price tag) myself.

[Hounddub]

Originally Posted by sazu

I know EP3R. Affordable cars, affordable houses, friendly cashiers Very tempted to live there but I can't possibly leave my family behind

I'll definitely visit Melbourne again.

Oh Come on guys. Given I AM an Aussie and living in Singapore I have the best perspective.

Granted Australia has cheaper housing (although Singapore has well priced HDB)....the interest rate for mortgages is over 7%!.....and only about 1-1.5% in Singapore. Do the maths.

Cars are definitely more expensive here in Singapore....but 10 year financing at nominal interest rates make monthly payments LESS than Australia.....not to mention PARF and COE rebates for early scrapping.

Oh....and then there's the BIG issue with working in Australia.....TAX! (if anyone in Singapore wants to pay 30-50% of their income to tax then be my guest).

It's all about taking the good with the bad.

[renyeo]

Hi Hounddub,

Welcome to the Lion City; please make yourself at home!

Which one of the trio you are most likely to buy: GT-86, BRZ or Hyundai's Veloster?

Individual-wise, I am sorely tempted by the Veloster. Despite it only making 136hp, the 1.6-liter all-aluminum mill is good enough for me, at least in Singapore.

Apparently, Americans are snapping up 1.6L Velosters like hot cakes - Hyundai USA sold 10,000 Velos during the model's first full year on sale.

Meanwhile, Autocar UK gives 4.5 stars (out of a possible 5) to the 1.6 GDi as tested here: http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/....6-GDi/260998/

See what you think of it.

[Hounddub]

Originally Posted by renyeo

Hi Hounddub,

Welcome to the Lion City; please make yourself at home!

Which one of the trio you are most likely to buy: GT-86, BRZ or Hyundai's Veloster?

Individual-wise, I am sorely tempted by the Veloster. Despite it only making 136hp, the 1.6-liter all-aluminum mill is good enough for me, at least in Singapore.

Apparently, Americans are snapping up 1.6L Velosters like hot cakes - Hyundai USA sold 10,000 Velos during the model's first full year on sale.

Meanwhile, Autocar UK gives 4.5 stars (out of a possible 5) to the 1.6 GDi as tested here: http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/....6-GDi/260998/

See what you think of it.

I have already placed a refundable order for the GT86.

[renyeo]

Originally Posted by Hounddub

I have already placed a refundable order for the GT86.

Congrats, dude! You are a good man.

I could only afford drooling over pictures... Wah ha ha!

[Hounddub]

Thanks Ren. Personally it was an easy choice. After having a Renault R26 in Australia I'm done with front wheel drive (the Veloster would have taken a back seat to a Megane R250 anyway), but this time I wanted a RWD machine......loved my S15 all those years ago!

[renyeo]

Originally Posted by Hounddub

Thanks Ren. Personally it was an easy choice. After having a Renault R26 in Australia I'm done with front wheel drive (the Veloster would have taken a back seat to a Megane R250 anyway), but this time I wanted a RWD machine......loved my S15 all those years ago!

The Megane R26 is a leftist choice by local standards. In any case, you have made a right choice by going with the GT-86. Enjoy the drive!

[mockngbrd]

Originally Posted by sazu

Basically the government's trying to control the number of cars on the road. Their so called "solution" is to to make car buyers buy Certificate Of Entitlement (COE). COE for a 2.0 litre car now costs about S$65k. So COE + a typical 2.0 litre Honda Civic today costs about S$135k.

not just that dude. in addition to COE, our import taxes and duties come to around 130% of the car's value.

Originally Posted by Hounddub

Oh Come on guys. Given I AM an Aussie and living in Singapore I have the best perspective.

Cars are definitely more expensive here in Singapore....but 10 year financing at nominal interest rates make monthly payments LESS than Australia.....not to mention PARF and COE rebates for early scrapping.

Well-priced HDB? What you been smoking? i want some

Taking on a 10year finance scheme might give you lower repayment rates BUT after 10years what happens to the car you've been paying for? You have to pay another tens of thousands just to keep your car another 10 years or deregister it.

like you said, good and bad. For car guys in SG, it's mostly bad.

[sazu]

Welcome back to Sillypore bro mockngbrd. How's yur Japan trip? Did u get to sit in the 86? Saw your photos. Great captures !

[renyeo]

Toyobaru have two new competitors in 2013 and 2014.

Come '13, Fiat will sell the impossible drop dead goreous Alfa Romeo 4C small two-seater coupe. Featuring Alfa's turbocharged, 1.8-liter 4-pot 1750TBi engine, the 4C is bestowd with 230hp and decimates the century sprint in 4.5 seconds. Sub-5 seconds timing are not surprising given 4C's rumored kerb weight of just 900 kg - that's almost 300 kilos leaner than the GT-86!


Alfa's 4C is destined for production and goes on sale in 2013.

Mazda will inject fresh enthusiasm into the MX5-Miata brand by rolling out an all-new car in 2014 or there round about. To be built with state-of-the-art all-encompassing SkyActiv technologies, 'ND' MX5-Miata will ride on a RWD'd SkyActiv platform and loses the current weighty 1.8-and 2.0-liter engines for smaller, fuel-efficient SkyActiv gasoline unit developing about 130hp. A turbocharged 1.5 is also said to be on the cards. Like the 4C, the new 2-seater roadster will take advantage of lightness to offer a competitive power-to-weight ratio. Mazda is aiming for a sub-1,000 kg target on the Miata, with one insider claiming the figures of 800 kg!


An artist's impression of 2014 ND MX5-Miata.

[renyeo]

Toyota fording ahead with direct-injection downsized turbochargers



Toyota is rumored to be working on a slew of new downsized, turbocharged engines.

This school of thoughts has gained traction recently boosted by an article in The Detroit Bureau.

According to the report, the next generation Corolla is widely expected to receive Toyota's first downsized, direct-injected turbocharged engine. A blown unit will also be introduced into the 2012 Camry lineup as an option without waiting for a full model change.

Meanwhile, Toyota has pulled together a turbocharged Yaris sub-compact with the help of GRMN, or Gazoo Racing Masters of Nuburgring. Industry observes say the one-off, 178 hp Vitz Turbo Concept (photo) is a sign of things to come from Toyota.

Full story - http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2012...-turbo-engines

[renyeo]

http://www.ft86club.com/?p=1158

Shocker: GT-86 managed a paltry 170hp at the dyno.

WTF! Am I missing something?

[sazu]

Originally Posted by renyeo

http://www.ft86club.com/?p=1158

Shocker: GT-86 managed a paltry 170hp at the dyno.

WTF! Am I missing something?

170hp?? wth happen to the other 30hp?