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Old 11-11-2011, 03:45 PM   #1
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Post Spanish magazine (Autopista) review + new info + new engine bay photo. ECU flashable!

Another Review

This time from the Spanish magazine "Autopista", the most important and reliable of my country (IMHO)

The reporter was one of the six chosen to make a first evaluation of the prototype and give feedback to engineers. Like the other reviews so far (CAR, Autocar, Motortrend, C/D), he liked the car a lot. He says it drifts great and that the feeling is similar (despite the distances) to Renault RSs.


Though there's almost nothing new in the article, there are some interesting statements I can't remember seeing in the forum and I would like to share them.
  • The engineers assured him that there will be two manual gearbox options with different ratios
  • The Toyota will be the most affordable of the trio
  • The test unit was wearing Michelin Primacy HPs in 215/45 size on 17" wheels
  • They have freed car's electronics (ECU) so aftermarket industry can tune it at its will
  • It's going to be on sale on June of 2012
There are some good photos of the reporter drifting the car, but the one I think it's new is this:

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Another Review

This time from the Spanish magazine "Autopista", the most important and reliable of my country (IMHO)

The reporter was one of the six chosen to make a first evaluation of the prototype and give feedback to engineers. He liked the car a lot. He says it drifts great and that the feeling is similar (despite the distances) to Renault RSs.


Though there's almost nothing new in the article, there are some interesting statements I can't remember seeing in the forum and I would like to share them.
  • The engineers assured him that there will be two manual gearbox options with different ratios
  • The Toyota will be the most affordable of the trio
  • The test unit was wearing Michelin Primacy HPs in 215/45 size on 17" wheels
  • They have freed car's electronics so auxiliary industry can tune it at its will
  • It's going to be on sale on June of 2012
There are some good photos of the reporter drifting the car, but the one I think it's new is this:
1st) What? In terms of affordability, Toyota < Scion? how does that make any sense?

2nd) FREE ECU BABY! LADIES AND GENTLEMEN this car will be 100% epic!!! Confirmed.

PS: Link to the online article?
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Old 11-11-2011, 03:57 PM   #3
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Whoa!!! Great find! MOAR PICS NAOW.

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ECU that is tunable is big news. Hope its true.
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would you be willing to scan the whole article? i would love to see this thing sideways like you said!!
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I GA-RUN-TEEEE thats not talking about the U.S model
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I found only the cover of the article, I cannot find it all digital lol. It's the November 2011 issue :/
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In terms of what exactly? Pricing? ECU tuning?
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In terms of what exactly? Pricing? ECU tuning?
the two manual options and the ecu.. but i really hope im misproven. even though im going off gut feeling
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I hope this is a "world car" in the sense that those features (especially the Ecu) will be in ALL models.
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1st) What? In terms of affordability, Toyota < Scion? how does that make any sense?
Yes, I thought more or less the same. It's odd. Perhaps they think it's going to sell better in the USA and take advantage of that. Just a thought. :l

I can't find the article in the web, I think they don't upload the articles of the current week magazine. It's time to scan some pages

I'll be back in a few minutes
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I hope this is a "world car" in the sense that those features (especially the Ecu) will be in ALL models.
Yes, he speaks of that as something all of the three will feature
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scion being more expensive can make sense cause Scion only has one trim were we have already seen the toyota will get a base base model for racing as well as 3 different trims so Scion only trim can be more $$$ than toyota lowest trim
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Yes, he speaks of that as something all of the three will feature
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scion being more expensive can make sense cause Scion only has one trim were we have already seen the toyota will get a base base model for racing as well as 3 different trims so Scion only trim can be more $$$ than toyota lowest trim
Hmm, that makes sense, Basically, the Scion Version with more commodities (but still the base model for scion) will be more expensive (perhaps $1k-$2k?) than the SUPER bare-bones Toyota for Racing/Tuning Shops. Makes sense
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the two manual options and the ecu.. but i really hope im misproven. even though im going off gut feeling
Ah... yes, I don't see the two manual options happening either, although I wonder if a there will be final gear options via TRD/SPT?

As for the ECU, I don't see a tunable ECU as a problem, particularly in California. Usually you have to install other parts (I/H/E and/or FI) that would cause the car to fail smog before they have a chance to plug into the OBD port. As long as those aren't present, there isn't going to be any useful amount of tuning you could do to the ECU that would throw it so far out of whack to fail testing.
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[*]They have freed car's electronics so auxiliary industry can tune it at its will


the weird intake tube is gone!

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The battery is also in a different location...
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More pics and the article please!
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*Yes the cabin-plumbed acoustic resonator is gone, whew! In it's place is a larger acoustic chamber not dissimilar to the Gazoo car. You can now be pretty sure the car is MAF, right between the intake elbow and the air filter. This'll give the aftermarket a slight headache.

*LOL stupid little red intake manifold decorative cover.

*I seriously hope they're not done routing the A/C lines; could they possibly have laid them out more haphazardly?! They look awful.

*Interesting to see separate reservoirs for clutch and brake fluid. Speaking of brakes, why the hell is the ABS module way up next to the engine?

*The strut-tower brake is now modular and flimsier, not a big welded-in piece like on the Gazoo race car.

*You can now see the windshield and/or headlight washer reservoir, and the windshield washer nozzles in the plastic cowling under the wipers. The cowling looks ready and willing to scoop up all the autumn leaves; let's hope it doesn't.

*Still not sure if that's really the ECU standing on-end on the right side of the engine. Also, what's that huge black box in the front right of the bay?

Nice to see more engine bay pics. Though I have to say it looks a bit sloppy in there. I'm sure they could've made it look cleaner if they spent 5 minutes routing things neater.



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The battery is also in a different location...
Erm, it's a left-hand driver versus right-hand drive. The brake & clutch reservoir, and by necessity the battery are mirror-imaged.
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*Yes the cabin-plumbed acoustic resonator is gone, whew! In it's place is a larger acoustic chamber not dissimilar to the Gazoo car. You can now be pretty sure the car is MAF, right between the intake elbow and the air filter. This'll give the aftermarket a slight headache.
there is a taller box in front of the alternator, connected to the intake pipe after the MAF. and then there is the flatter, wider box that seems to be connected to the airbox, before the filter. is that yet another acoustic chamber? or a secondary airbox? and if you look at this pic, looks like the tube is there, and is actually attached to the taller box?



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*You can now see the windshield and/or headlight washer reservoir, and the windshield washer nozzles in the plastic cowling under the wipers. The cowling looks ready and willing to scoop up all the autumn leaves; let's hope it doesn't.
makes for a nice and flat hood/bonnet.

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*Still not sure if that's really the ECU standing on-end on the right side of the engine. Also, what's that huge black box in the front right of the bay
if it is, makes for a quick swap to stand alone and thats the fuse box in the front, no?

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  • They have freed car's electronics so auxiliary industry can tune it at its will
That's big news.

Edit: I wonder if they're going about this in an Android fashion. A nice conservative ECU for everyday folks that don't care as much about performance, but easily tuned (rooted?) into the 25mpg 230bhp car we know it can be.

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