Vortech Supercharged Scion FR-S is Mysteriously Powerful: 2012 SEMA Show - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

vh_supra26 · 10-30-2012, 02:10 PM

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What exactly is so mysterious about the Vortech Supercharged Scion FR-S? The power output of course.

Unveiled today at the SEMA Show aftermarket parts expo in Las Vegas, NV, the Vortech kit is certain to be a go-to addition for many FR-S drivers once the original thrill of their light weight, rear-drive sports car wears off.

Vortech hasn’t released any estimated numbers for the kit either and a representative we spoke with at the SEMA Show was hesitant to even guess – though something just shy of 300 hp (a 50% increase from the stock output) seems about right.

Other upgrades on the FR-S include a KW suspension, Borla exhaust, 19-inch Rotiform wheels.

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...sema-show.html

subatoy · 10-30-2012, 02:25 PM

Mysteriously powerful???
They are talking about crank HP so 300 hp is around 255WHP
which EVERY other FI kit has achiave with 5psi.

Cheddar · 10-30-2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by subatoy

Mysteriously powerful???
They are talking about crank HP so 300 hp is around 255WHP
which EVERY other FI kit has achiave with 5psi.

damn dude your always so negative. This is the secound thread I read with you posting nothing useful and just bashing a product.

The guestamate is 300hp. There is so many things we dont know about the kit. Like PSI options.

Synack · 10-30-2012, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheddar

damn dude your always so negative. This is the secound thread I read with you posting nothing useful and just bashing a product.

The guestamate is 300hp. There is so many things we dont know about the kit. Like PSI options.

True, but he has a valid point. We need whp/wtq numbers when deciding on making a big purchase such as forced induction. It's the deciding factor for a lot of people on what kit they go with.

DIM · 10-30-2012, 02:37 PM

Is that 300hp guess crank or whp?

JoeBoxer · 10-30-2012, 02:37 PM

The reason there are no numbers yet is because they haven't been tuned yet, at least that's what one of my sources that worked on a car with the Vortech told me.

Synack · 10-30-2012, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeBoxer

The reason there are no numbers yet is because they haven't been tuned yet, at least that's what one of my sources that worked on a car with the Vortech told me.

I heard they were street tuned

ashtray · 10-30-2012, 02:53 PM

There's a thread on a different build where the supercharger increased power output to only 200hp and 180lbfts AT THE WHEELS. So, I'd expect the Vortech system with an intercooler to be able to boost hp and tq at least 50-60 at the crank, before requiring other engine mods. What's nice about the supercharger is that it spools quick - so though peak levels might not be as great as a turbo, you get more hp gains under 4k rpms where you usually are running the engine.

Turbowned · 10-30-2012, 03:34 PM

Just tell us already, I can't wait any longer!!! lol

The HKS S/C's output was a serious letdown. I really hope they can find more power with it, and I hope Vortech's kit makes even more than that. 280-300bhp is what I would want and I think it's definitely achievable given the power additions I've seen with certain S2000 and Miata kits.

MX-5 (NC) Flyin' Miata S/C kit (Eaton MP62-based):
Originally 166bhp, 140lb/ft
After supercharger: ~280bhp, 240lb/ft

S2000 (AP2) Vortech S/C kit:
Originally 240bhp, 162lb/ft
After supercharger: ~358bhp, 219lb/ft

QFry · 10-30-2012, 03:41 PM

lol...people have no patience anymore...

ATL BRZ · 10-30-2012, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by QFry

lol...people have no patience anymore...

They've been teasing us for over two months and we haven't had anything but cropped pictures and speculation.

Now that it's installed on multiple cars and they've surely been dyno tuned, they are STILL holding out on numbers and the cars are now on display at SEMA! Ridiculous!

Those wheels are hideous.

muffinman · 10-30-2012, 04:36 PM

those rims remind me of 1980's snowflakes off a trans am

armythug · 10-30-2012, 04:46 PM

Maybe the result is unimpressive. That seems like the main reason for holding out. Because one would be quick to boast if the end result is really amazing. Just my speculation. I hope that I am wrong but this is what I believe now.

Jeff86 · 10-30-2012, 04:59 PM

I can believe these haven't been dyno tuned yet. Getting a kit as clean as this built and ready for SEMA is a tall order. I'm definitely excited to see the results, but two months is nothing when it comes to developing a good FI kit. This one looks very clean in that engine bay. It's a job well done so far.

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DIM Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: San Antonio TX / Dyess AFB Posts: 948 Thanks: 26 Thanked 451 Times in 242 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Is that 300hp guess crank or whp? __________________

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armythug Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: Pegasus White 86GTS Location: Perth WA Posts: 608 Thanks: 371 Thanked 108 Times in 84 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Maybe the result is unimpressive. That seems like the main reason for holding out. Because one would be quick to boast if the end result is really amazing. Just my speculation. I hope that I am wrong but this is what I believe now. __________________ Pegasus White 6MT got it. :happy0180:

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subatoy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: subatoy Location: Atlanta Posts: 667 Thanks: 32 Thanked 198 Times in 106 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Mysteriously powerful??? They are talking about crank HP so 300 hp is around 255WHP which EVERY other FI kit has achiave with 5psi.

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JoeBoxer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Whiteout FR-S Location: Arkansas Posts: 4,154 Thanks: 1,666 Thanked 1,627 Times in 997 Posts Mentioned: 72 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The reason there are no numbers yet is because they haven't been tuned yet, at least that's what one of my sources that worked on a car with the Vortech told me.

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ashtray As Seen On The Internet Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: 2003 WRX, 2013 BRZ, 442 Location: SoCal Posts: 852 Thanks: 23 Thanked 251 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	There's a thread on a different build where the supercharger increased power output to only 200hp and 180lbfts AT THE WHEELS. So, I'd expect the Vortech system with an intercooler to be able to boost hp and tq at least 50-60 at the crank, before requiring other engine mods. What's nice about the supercharger is that it spools quick - so though peak levels might not be as great as a turbo, you get more hp gains under 4k rpms where you usually are running the engine.

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muffinman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Drives: - Location: jerz Posts: 120 Thanks: 55 Thanked 25 Times in 15 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	those rims remind me of 1980's snowflakes off a trans am

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Jeff86 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 86 (FR-S) Location: Tennessee Posts: 643 Thanks: 460 Thanked 214 Times in 148 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I can believe these haven't been dyno tuned yet. Getting a kit as clean as this built and ready for SEMA is a tall order. I'm definitely excited to see the results, but two months is nothing when it comes to developing a good FI kit. This one looks very clean in that engine bay. It's a job well done so far.

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