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Old 10-28-2011, 10:19 AM   #1
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Exclamation Autocar's Toyota FT-86 / Scion FR-S First Drive Review

Seems that a press embargo on FT-86 prototype drive reviews has been lifted today. First it was CAR Magazine's review, and now Autocar comes in with their own.

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Toyota FT-86 2.0 First Drive

Test date Friday, October 28, 2011

Price as tested £20,000

What is it?

We’ve been waiting a long time for the Toyota FT-86. Literally, because we’ve seen a lot of the concept. But figuratively, too: Toyota is promising the FT-86 will deliver a return to sports car purity that is driven by feel and intuition, not lap times and lateral grip levels. We’ve wanted a car like that for a long while.

“Sports cars have gotten boring,” Toyota says. “They’re only interested in going fast.” The FT-86 is meant to amend that, to bring speeds down but take the enjoyment up, not unlike the Caterham 7 Supersport which we’ve fallen for recently.

The FT-86 is on a new platform that has been co-developed with Subaru (whose Subaru BRZ will be distinctly similar). We still don’t have all the technical details because it’s some way from launch – sales start in June 2012, following the production car’s unveiling at the end of November 2011.

What I can tell you is that it’s “as small as possible for a four-seater sports car,” which means it weighs 1280kg. It has a 2.0-litre flat-four petrol engine in the front, naturally aspirated, which is supplied by Subaru but gets Toyota’s D4-S direct injection system. It makes 197bhp.

The key things to add are these: it drives the rear wheels through a six-speed manual gearbox and a Torsen limited-slip differential. And the tyres are the same modest 215/45 R17 items you’ll find on a Toyota Prius.

Oh, and the ESP can be completely switched off.

What’s it like?

As much fun as you’d hope. I drove a disguised car on a deserted airfield last May (wasn’t supposed to be able to tell you about it until the end of November, but recent revelations have brought that forward a bit ), and it still makes me smile to think about it now.

First impressions: it feels light and compact, a bit like an MX-5. The driving position is low, straight and snug, with grippy front seats (and not a lot of room in the back).

The Toyota FT-86 feels quick enough, too, with a precise if a touch notchy gearchange, and an engine note that’s a bit growly – there’s not much flat-four burble. Tweaking the NVH is high on Toyota’s ‘to-do’ list. It has a broad power curve - it revs to 7500 but there’s no desperate need to wind it that far past the mid-range.

It’s hard to accurately guage the ride on a concrete airfield, but the FT-86 feels quite deftly set-up, light on its feet, with a touch of tyre roar that’s to be expected.

It steers easily too. At 2.5 turns lock-to-lock the steering’s quick without being hyperactive, and is light-to-middling in weight. It all adds to the impression that this is going to be an easy car to get along with.

Find a corner and you’ll find some roll, but its rate is well contained. The FT-86’s weight distribution is 53/47 per cent front/rear, so it’ll nudge into steady-state understeer if you’re on a constant throttle, where it grips moderately well and is pleasingly poised.

The great thing about the FT-86 though is, as promised, it really handles. It lets you choose how you want to corner. Add any amount of power and it’ll turn at least neutral. Trail the brakes into a bend, give a mid-corner throttle-lift or, well, just give the steering a bit of a bung and lots of throttle and it’ll either straighten its line or give you armfuls of oversteer, utterly as you prefer.

There’s still a bit of tweaking to do on the damping, but it’s 90 per cent of the way there. As it is, in third gear the FT-86 will run out of power to keep a long slide going (if you like that sort of thing), so inevitably it takes momentum rather than power to play games with the chassis. But if you add more power to compensate then you’ll want a turbo and bigger stoppers too, and that adds weight, and, well – that’s where the downward spiral starts, right?

“The key development for the FT-86 is that it’s a front-engined, rear-drive car with intuitive handling,” says Toyota.

“A fun car is a car you can control. We rejected the idea of a car developed using numbers. It must have front-engine/rear-drive, a naturally-aspirated engine and a low centre of gravity.”

Should I buy one?

I suspect those who do won’t regret it. The Toyota FT-86 will need a change in attitude: this car’s not about delivering ultimate acceleration or lap times, it’s just about having fun.

The FT-86’s modest limits and power mean that it should prove enjoyable on the road: you’ll be able to get more out of it, more often, than you could a much faster and more theoretically capable sports car, whose reward is more often than not limited by visibility and sensibility.

It’d be terrific fun on a track day, too. It’s light enough to not wear out its consumables quickly and, while an FT-86 wouldn’t be the fastest way around a circuit, there aren’t too many cars out there – certainly not at its predicted £20k-odd price tag – that could put a bigger smile on their driver’s face.

Matt Prior

Price: 20,000 (est); Top speed: n/a; 0-62mph: n/a; Economy: n/a; Co2: n/a; Kerbweight: 1280kg; Engine type: 2.0-litre, four-cylinder petrol; Power: 197bhp; Torque: n/a; Gearbox: six-speed manual

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Old 10-28-2011, 10:29 AM   #2
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the other one says 25k, this one says 20k. i like this one =D
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:31 AM   #3
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Thank you FT86club for putting a smile on my face so early in the morning!
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:32 AM   #4
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the other one says 25k, this one says 20k. i like this one =D



Though it'd be nice if the £ was a $ instead
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:36 AM   #5
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Wow. This is great. Keep the news coming!
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These reviews are really getting my blood pumping with excitement; although this one put a bit of a damper with the 1280kg (~2800lb) curb weight - hopefully he was including his 80kg personal weight.

Either way both Autocar and Car magazine have me believing what Moto was saying earlier this summer: Toyota has returned and in a big way.
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Wow. This is great. Keep the news coming!
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2750 lb test mule...that doesnt bode well.
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The more I learn about this car, the more sure I am that I want it ... small disappointments here and there, yes, but nothing major.
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Though it'd be nice if the £ was a $ instead
Totally agree
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price is too low for u ?
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Cars usually are more expensive in Europe though, rIght?
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So one review says 25k vs 20k and the other says 1200kg vs 1280kg. I'll take one with the lowest of both of those numbers please. And this review says the SC can actually be turned off. WOO!
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I've intentionally stayed out of the recent styling debates over the leaked exterior/interior photos as those are the most subjective parts of the car than can easily be modified to the users taste.

These driving impressions are what I've really been waiting for.

All indications are that the early prototypes are awesome (better than a miata even).

Toyobaru will be making constant improvements utilizing all of their recent track data and this baby will only get better right up until launch.

I'm super excited for this car again. Thank you Toyota and Subaru.
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