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Old 10-12-2012, 05:48 PM   #1
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500 Mile - Complete fluid change

We hit 500miles today, and decided to do a complete fluid change before we hit the track this weekend.

Some of the goods we used.


Removed the OEM oil filter with K&N high performance filter.
The filter is slightly taller by about 1/4"
The oil was fairly clean, with no unusual contaminants. The magnetic drain plug did a good job collecting small particulates.
We used exactly 5.5 quarts of Amsoil 0w20.


Remove the Undertray to access the transmission.


Remove drain and fill plugs:


Transmission had a good amount of particulates that came out...normal for a new tran. Oil was dark brown still translucent.
Helps if your trans is warm for the fluid to drain easily.
We used about 2.6 quarts of Redline MT90


Next is the rear diff.


Also helps here to warm up the fluid to drain more easily.
You can see how much small particulates collected on the magnetic drain plug.
We used about 1.25 quarts of the Motul Gear 300


.....ready for the track!
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Old 10-12-2012, 07:11 PM   #2
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Is subaru gear oil as used in STI transmission OK for BMZ tansmission?
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I had some grunge on the diff plug as well. I suspect the next change will have less on it.
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Wondering if extra s is working well in this missions.
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Your choices of fluid changes are exactly the same as mine, except I stuck with an OEM filter. Just happy to see this combo used at a professional shop!
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Any change in shifting notchiness with that fluid?
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I'm using the MT-90 in my transmission as well, and there was an improvement in shift quality. Not a huge one, but noticeable. To be honest it shifted pretty good to start with. I've noticed now that the temperatures are starting to dip under freezing overnight, the 1-2 shift is a little stiff until I've put a few miles on the car. I'm very tempted to try gmookher's suggestion of the Pentosin MTF2 (75W80) fluid for the winter.
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For those that are asking, the STI specs GF5 and you want a GF4 in a BRZ transmission. GF5 is fine for the rear. Extra-S is GF5.

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Just changed my diff fluid with Motul Gear 300 also. Still debating as to which tranny fluid to use.
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Any change in shifting notchiness with that fluid?
The notchiness of the transmission didn't change. Fluids won't change that.
That slight grind from 1st to 2nd... I didn't notice this until the weather here started dipping into the 40's in the morning (even with the OEM fluids). After the first shift, it's perfect every gear with the MT90.
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I'm using the MT-90 in my transmission as well, and there was an improvement in shift quality. Not a huge one, but noticeable. To be honest it shifted pretty good to start with. I've noticed now that the temperatures are starting to dip under freezing overnight, the 1-2 shift is a little stiff until I've put a few miles on the car. I'm very tempted to try gmookher's suggestion of the Pentosin MTF2 (75W80) fluid for the winter.
You could try the MT-85 (75w85)
We had this in our Evo's in the winter, and honestly with chicago temps dropping below 0 at times - it's just in the matter of the fluids getting up to temp.
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Is subaru gear oil as used in STI transmission OK for BMZ tansmission?
No, the AWD design Subaru uses means the tranny case also houses the front differential. The front diff is a hypoid design and needs the GL-5 requirements. Our FRS/BRZ transmissions are just that, transmission only. Some of the GL-5 stuff could deteriorate brass synchros, etc. Use something GL-4 rated.
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What kind of bolts are the drain/fill plugs? I can't tell if they are squares, torx, or triple squares.
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People have been talking about significant brake fade; you didn't mention switching to performance brake fluid ???
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Love to throw it out there...


PENTOSIN +6MT= butter shifts
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What kind of bolts are the drain/fill plugs? I can't tell if they are squares, torx, or triple squares.
They're allen wrench type sockets, however I used a torx because I didn't have the right size allen wrench. Still worked perfectly fine.
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the tranny and differential fill and drain plugs are all 10mm socket-type bolts. You'll need at minimum a 10mm hex wrench, or better yet a 10mm hex socket bit (you know, for correct torques and whatnot).

edit- and the aero tray bolts are all normal 10mm bolts. A few along the forward edge are 12mm, but they do not need to be removed.
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You could try the MT-85 (75w85)
We had this in our Evo's in the winter, and honestly with chicago temps dropping below 0 at times - it's just in the matter of the fluids getting up to temp.

I thought about the MT-85. Honestly, I have no problem with the MT90 in there now. It just takes a little longer to get up to temp. I have a quart of MTL (75W80) here that I'm not doing anything with. I could try draining a quart and adding that when it gets colder out. If it makes a difference, I'll know it wants a thinner oil (at least for the winter).
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PENTOSIN +6MT= butter shifts

I keep thinking about it...sooner or later, I'm gonna cave.
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the tranny and differential fill and drain plugs are all 10mm socket-type bolts. You'll need at minimum a 10mm hex wrench, or better yet a 10mm hex socket bit (you know, for correct torques and whatnot).

edit- and the aero tray bolts are all normal 10mm bolts. A few along the forward edge are 12mm, but they do not need to be removed.

You beat me to it!
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People have been talking about significant brake fade; you didn't mention switching to performance brake fluid ???
We wanted to take the car in stock form to the track to get a feel for it.
The very first thing I noticed more then anything was the lack of grip on the factory tires. Will not be going to the track with them again...
Track was also wet, so I didn't get to push the brakes too hard.

We will change the fluids during our brake upgrade stage, for now we want to push the car in stock form.
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We wanted to take the car in stock form to the track to get a feel for it.
The very first thing I noticed more then anything was the lack of grip on the factory tires. Will not be going to the track with them again...
Track was also wet, so I didn't get to push the brakes too hard.

We will change the fluids during our brake upgrade stage, for now we want to push the car in stock form.
Gotcha, thanks. Everyone says that about the tires; a lot of people go with Star Specs. Apparently you can fit a full set of wheels/tires in the back and still have space for tools and gear
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